… And Democrats in Congress unanimously gave him that power. Republicans and Democrats in Congress had originally given that power to the Nobel Prize winner, but now that power moves to either President Trump or President Clinton. Indeed, it’s even possible that Secretary of State Chelsea Clinton may receive that power if nominated by her wedding guest President Trump.
In the FAST Act passed in December of 2015, Congress and President Obama empowered the President and his Secretary of State to rescind your passport, by decision power granted solely to the President’s IRS. “If the Secretary receives certification by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue that an individual has a seriously delinquent tax debt, the Secretary shall transmit such certification to the Secretary of State for action with respect to denial, revocation, or limitation of a passport pursuant to section 32101 of the FAST Act.”
Only a few years after discovering the president’s IRS had applied faulty criteria to the tax status of their boss’s opponents, the Republican-controlled Congress granted the Democratic-controlled IRS the authority to judge your tax status. If the judgement is negative, the President’s State department will take away your passport. President Obama gladly accepted the mandate with his signature upon the bill.
The money that will be raised from the threat of revoking passports was used in the Fixing Surface Transaction Act (FAST) to finance a make-work transportation bill.
Never mind that the President and Congress had sworn to uphold the Constitution. Revoking a passport is a penal action — a legal punishment. The Constitution has various provisions that are supposed to ensure a trial by judge and jury. But the FAST Act removes the judgement process from the court and delivers it to the IRS, with enforcement by the State Dept. How could that be Constitutional? Oh well, now the judgement will be up to President Trump or President Clinton. Let’s hope they like you.
How can someone have a tax assessment? I don’t know–ask the IRS. It’s all up to them–it’s not a court proceeding. And you aren’t assumed innocent, either. It’s quite possible that President Trump or President Clinton will make an “error” or might “use inappropriate criteria” upon your tax filing.
Wouldn’t you be notified? Well, move someplace without any forwarding addresses. You won’t get the notices.
But you can appeal? Sure. You can FILE SUIT against the government to stop them from rescinding your passport. That is, if you have lots of money. Oh yeah–a little detail–if you sue, you are the PLAINTIFF and you have to prove the guilt of the DEFENDANT (The U.S. Government is assumed innocent until the citizen proves the government guilty).
There are 8.7 million US expats that have been complaining about this fascist legislation — to no avail. Homelanders have been happy enough with a law to punish people that live outside USA — with dependence upon their passports.
Now it’s time for Homelanders to find out how unconstitutional laws affect them.
Maybe it’s a good idea for homelanders to stay quiet about their opposition to President Trump or President Clinton. When you lose, your political affiliations might be noticed and someone you don’t like will be able to prevent you from leaving your country.
Don’t care, I’m never going back to THAT lousy country.
USA is gouverned by a private financial mafia that owns the federal reserve !!!
Meaning USA IS NOT a nation anymore since the creation of the private federal reserve bank in december 1913 by Rockfeller, Rothschild, JP Morgan… Can you imagine that ???
Federal Reserve creating paper money out of NOTHING (now digital money) and lending it to the country to enslave us by only collecting interest while leaving the debt grow out of proportion !!!
Then these mafiosos created the 16th amendment (wich was never ratified meaning it’s illegal) to make beleive they have the right to tax our income, not only in the states, but any income made anywhere in the world with their citizenship taxation !!!
By the way, the 16th amendment stipulates “The several states” duh…meaning all territories like Washington D.C. that do not belong to the 50 states of the republic union protected by the US constitution.
Any person born in one of the 50 states of the union is an american national, not a statutary US citizen of Washington DC. American nationals ARE NOT subject to the income tax. Only the state where they live can tax them.
The only way the private IRS agency working for the private federal reserve has to enforce their illegal income tax is by enforcment. IRS squads in the united states illegally going after people to collect illegal income tax and fines ! Illegal FATCA act to enforce illegal CBT on the rest of the world.
Then, after WW2 they created the UN and the IMF to force all OECD countries to have to borrow money from them also to slowly, but surely, make their new world order plan advance.
And now with the Franck act in northern america and the BRRD directive in europe, banks that are in difficulty can legally steal the money from the deposits and savings of their clients since january 2016!!!
With the coming financial crisis, a great robery has been crafted to rob us !!!
Only solution : Get your money OUT of the financial banking mafia system now. Invest in real hard assets.
Good luck to everyone for these dark times coming up ahead of us.
The US is fast becoming nothing more than an open prison.
Passport revocation won’t have a significant impact on tax collect. Did revoking US driver’s licenses force men to make child support payments?
The rich will simply go out and ‘buy’ a second passport and hand in the blue book.
The problem with FATCA and other related laws, the stealth damage effect to the US economy. Day by day the damage occurs, but remains under the public radar.
The US won’t change. Donald Trump likes to remark about Dubai’s gleaming airports and when you arrive back at JFK it’s like going back in time.
If these obvious examples don’t make an impact on the US (with its falling down infrastructure), what chance do we have the US changing its mind on FATCA (with the stealth effects).
This legislation also prevents anyone who doesn’t already have a SSN from receiving a US passport, yet if you are a USC in Canada and want get your US tax affairs in order you must travel to one of the SS “field” offices in the US to obtain a SSN. US law requires US citizens to enter the US on a valid US passport. I suppose one could illegally enter the US on their Canadian passport, providing you have one – but should that be a necessity?
One shouldn’t find it expedient to take the citizenship of another country which they might not otherwise take just for the purpose of obtaining a SSN, just as one shouldn’t just move to another country to which you have no allegiance solely to protest a democratically elected president who will most likely be gone in four years.
I hope that Cape Breton gets lots of US tourist dollars this summer from those who’d like to explore the possibility though!
@Don , & @ Steven says
Best investment for a few income-ranges?
I happen to be low-to-mid.
@ Bubblebustin You don’t have to enter the US to obtain a social security number. I was able to do the paperwork at a US Consulate within Canada. And as for the passport issue, individuals I know with dual citizenship have been entering the US on a Canadian passport. My friend flew to Vegas last week, indeed she has done it many times to various other US destinations and she was only questioned in Hawaii. Yet, the US Consulate warned me against using a different passport other than an US to enter. It seems like they are enforcing use of the US passport in Europe (Boris Johnson), but not in North America?
Buy a few silver and gold coins…
Ann#1. They hardly ever enforce it either from Canada or Europe. How about 100 trips over 30 years without problems- see the thread on crossing the border. Boris wasn’t stopped by a border guy- it was an airline employee.
The Vancouver consulate told me I had to go to Bellingham back in 2011, but I think they may have changed that to now allow people to obtain a SSN at the Vancouver consulate. I read on another forum today that you no longer need to provide proof of foreign residency since leaving the US (a big hassle) too. The Vancouver a Consulate linked to this info page confirms this:
If so, it’s a welcome improvement since they are no longer issuing US passports without a SSN. It’s funny though that in the above info page they suggest you apply for a SSN with your passport, knowing your passport can’t be processed without a SSN. I think I’ll write to them for clarification.
And could the Canadian government get any stupider than this? It has been selling off Canada’s gold reserves and for what? To hoard the currencies of other countries and probably to help the NWO keep the value of gold supressed. Utterly frackin’ unbelievable!
“Donald Trump likes to remark about Dubai’s gleaming airports and when you arrive back at JFK it’s like going back in time.”
The irony is that Dubai has no personal income tax nor capital gains tax. Compare that to America’s CBTFATCAFBAR… such an awful state of affairs…
“It seems like they are enforcing use of the US passport in Europe (Boris Johnson), but not in North America?”
I wonder whether Nafta might have anything to do with it.
Trump will never prevent anyone who is not rich enough to do that! He is an honest man! He should be the next president of the USA.
Yes I read about Canada selling all it’s gold !!!
Germany has asked the federal reserve to ship the gold they have in stock there 2 years ago.
Still haven’t received an ounce of gold yet. And, They’re not even allowed to visit to see their gold.
Truth is there probably is no more gold in the federal reserve.
USA has sold the gold to the BRICS countries to keep the US dollar from collapsing.
Now they have no way to save the economy from the coming crisis like in 2008.
To much debt, Quantitive Easing doesn’t work and the Interest rates are close to zéro.
That’s why they came up with the Franck act for USA and probably Canada and the directive BRRD in Europe to allow banks in difficulty to legally steal our deposits to remain afloat.
That’s why people have to get their money out of the banking system.
Invest in hard assets.
@Duality – My point was the not that the US tax system is in a mess (it is), but the US has allowed itself to fall into total disrepair.
The high income earners in the US drive by the homeless (which is more obvious), in their Lexus hitting pothole after pothole, looking at rusting bridges and still the penny doesn’t drop.
Even well paid medical workers in the US taking sub world standard public transport seem oblivious to the US’ plight. The whole US has to come crashing down for them to wake up.
Bubblebustin: I don’t believe this is correct.”This legislation also prevents anyone who doesn’t already have a SSN from receiving a US passport”
I just looked up the US. Passport Application Form.
On page 3 it says the following:
“Section 6039E of the Internal Revenue Code (26 U.S.C. 6039E) requires you to provide your Social Security number (SSN), if you have one, when you apply for or renew a U.S. passport. If you have not been issued a SSN, enter zeros in box #5 of this form ….”
Notice “if you have one”. This wording has been on the passport application form for years and is still there. (Have they just not updated the online form since the passage of the FAST Act or does the FAST Act contain some ambiguity concerning who “must” supply an SSN?) According to the passport application form, if you are applying for a U.S. passport (which I will never do again) you do NOT have to get a Social Security number. However, as FATCA has taught us, the IRS looks upon applying for a U.S. passport as “proof” of your willingness to accept the “obligation” of paying U.S. taxes.
When I originally applied for a U.S. passport I was confronted with this wording as well. I took it (and the subsequent wording about the IRS) to indicate that if you wrote zeros in the box it showed that you were not of concern to the IRS. Apparently, I was grossly mistaken.
From discussion from Moodys Gartner last year on the subject of US passports: http://tax.moodysgartner.com/no-social-security-number-goodbye-passport/.
and FAQ from *U.S. Passports & International Travel* https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/FAQs.html (no problems, put in zeros and the Social Security Administration can issue you one for future use):
Would it not be more effective to have something like this taken on by a *PAC* as referred to in this article: http://www.salemnews.com/opinion/column-america-s-overseas-voters-are-not-impressed/article_e80e7241-117e-5bec-9b34-b653bbb06e59.html
and this comment that refers to the *PAC* suggestion by James Jatras: http://isaacbrocksociety.ca/media-and-blog-articles-open-for-comments-part-3-of-3/comment-page-32/#comment-7282786?
From past experience on trying to get people together for an effective protest here and there, I don’t see the numbers here at Brock that I think would be required for effectively taking on such a project. Chambers of Commerce for the states that receive *US Person Canadians (and other countries)* visits and spending money to benefit the US economy might be interested in hearing from you and others of us.
Ok, new FAST legislation “may” get your passport application rejected for lack of a social security number, just as it “may” get you fined or cause your passport to be revoked. Threats, threats and more threats – mostly against benign actors, as that Moody’s article highlights.
“My point was the not that the US tax system is in a mess (it is), but the US has allowed itself to fall into total disrepair. ”
Yes, I now see your point, but we should take it further…
State of total disrepair + CBTFATCAFBAR = a failed state
Now this could clinch them moving to Cape Breton if they offered it:
If you do not have a SSN, enter zeros in box #5 of your passport form. The Social Security Administration can issue you a SSN for future use, which may? have long been the case.
If you fail to provide the information, you will encounter a delay in processing and/or denial of your passport application. You will also be subject to a $500 penalty enforced by the IRS pursuant to Section 6039E of the Internal Revenue Code (26 U.S.C. 6039E). All questions on this matter should be directed to the nearest IRS office.”
A $500 fine? Is there no end to their punitive actions? Is that annually, daily or hourly?
I have a dream. If citizenship were tied to passport revocation, it would go like this:
I apply for the first time in my life for a US passport without a SSN which I also don’t have. They fine me $500. They look into their records and determine I am a tax cheat ( because now I owe them at least $500). They revoke my citizenship and deny me the passport. Done and dusted and all for free! No relinquishment fee.
A girl can dream. Trump, please make my dreams come true when you are POTUS. You know you can do anything you set your mind to.
That’s an interesting dream, but I believe the $500 fine is for those who have actually been issued a SSN and don’t enter the number into the application. I think you a should steer clear of the whole passport thing.
Yeah Ginny, you better steer clear.