Reposted from the Renounce US Citizenship blog
This post was written in December 2014. It is being reposted in 2018 – the question is why
FATCA and the CRS (“Common Reporting Standard”) are mandatory information sharing schemes. They first define people in terms of their “tax residency” (each country defines who its tax residents are) and then shares people’s private information based on that “tax residency”. In other words (assuming you believe that there is a legitimate interest in privacy) both FATCA and the CRS should be viewed as “privacy overrides”.
Although the notion of privacy is dead in the United States (companies like Facebook and Google make a living off obtaining and using private information), the European GDPR suggests that privacy is valued by Europeans and that individuals should have some control over their data. In Europe the GDPR reflects a presumption that individual belongs to the individual. There is no such presumption in the United States. See:
31-year-old Austrian lawyer Max Schrems was the catalyst for new privacy protection regulations in Europe. He says your data belongs to you and you should have control over it. pic.twitter.com/OTV0reXDOg
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) November 12, 2018
Automatic exchange of tax information and data privacy
The potential conflict between the automatic exchange of information under the CRS and privacy rights under the GDPR has not gone unnoticed and has been the subject of academic commentary. It has also led to citizens proactively asserting their privacy rights as reflected in the following article which includes:
“In a democratic society, the rights to privacy and data protection are an essential safeguard to protect compliant citizens against potential abuses and must be treated with the appropriate seriousness by the authorities.”
When privacy rights as legislated by the GDPR conflict with the erosion of privacy as madated by the CRS and #FATCA: "Mishcon de Reya complains about anti-tax evasion measures" https://t.co/wL3as7dcZF
— U.S. Citizen Abroad (@USCitizenAbroad) December 9, 2018
The awareness of the collection of and misuse of personal data is becoming more and more prevalent.
Now back to my thoughts in December of 2014.
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Brandeis: the "right to be let alone" = "the most comprehensive of rights, + the right most valued by civilized men." http://t.co/pbWxJIE4iV
— U.S. Citizen Abroad (@USCitizenAbroad) December 27, 2014
An attack on privacy is an an attack on freedom itself.
I have previously posted on the theme of – “From Facebook To FATCA” . My theory has been that FATCA (which is an erosion of freedom) is possible only in a world that does NOT value privacy. The erosion of privacy NECESSARILY LEADS to the erosion of freedom.
An earlier post describing the relationship between FATCA and freedom included:
The argument over FATCA is NOT really about taxes. The argument is over whether individuals should be allowed to have freedom and privacy.
The U.S. government wants to abolish privacy and freedom.
Some countries and individuals want to preserve freedom (at least as long as possible.)
Question: How did the values of “freedom” and “privacy” disintegrate? Why are so many people unconcerned about the the loss of privacy? Makes no mistake about it, “privacy” and “freedom” are linked.
I speculate that the world of social media has paved the way for this. People now think nothing of having their life visible to all on Facebook, Twitter and the rest. If there is no personal privacy, and financial privacy is part of personal privacy, then …
Privacy and freedom are linked in all aspects of life. The links include: Financial aspects, Spiritual aspects, Family aspects and really ALL aspects.
Financial aspects: In a previous post, it was reported that Charles W. Adams in his book: “For Good And Evil – The Impact of Taxes On The Course Of Civilization” – describing 27 lessons from the history of taxation included:
11. If liberty is to be defended with success against the dominance of the state, then financial privacy must be preserved. Banking privacy is one the cornerstones of liberty, having its roots in the principle of early English Law that a man’s castle (primarily his treasury) is beyond he surveillance of the king.
Family aspects: No matter what you think of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade, Justice Blackmun, in ruling that the Government could not prohibit abortions, Justice Blackmun recognized a constitutional right of privacy.
Few decisions are more personal and intimate, more properly private, or more basic to individual dignity and autonomy, than a woman’s decision – with the guidance of her physician and within the limits specified in Roe – whether to end her pregnancy. A woman’s right to make that choice freely is fundamental…[11]
(Note that some do NOT agree with the idea that the U.S. constitution guarantees any right of privacy.) In a world of FATCA, FBAR, Obama, NSA, etc., the question of whether there is a constitutional right to privacy is a question of profound importance.)
Spiritual aspects: The United States was largely founded by people seeking the freedom to engage in religious activities of their choice. Even today “freedom of religion” is recognized as an important part of American society.
Privacy certainly matters to individuals. Privacy matters to societies. Privacy matters to democracies.
The advent of social media and the erosion of privacy:
More and more of people’s lives have been subject to scrutiny. In fact, those who value privacy are frequently regarded with suspicion. The erosion of privacy was purported to have been justified by the events of 911. The “Patriot Act” required people to “give up” more and more of their privacy in exchange for … (what)?
Leading us directly to the Edward Snowden’s revelations about NSA spying
Sweden gives #Snowden human rights award & standing ovation http://t.co/nsk89v5v9Y Yet will spy on @USCitizenAbroad 4 #FATCA. Hypocrisy
— Lynne Swanson (@LynneBlaze) December 27, 2014
I highly recommend you read Glen Greenwald`s book “No Place To Hide“. Mr. Greenwald was the journalist who was contacted by Ed Snowden. He traveled to Hong Kong to interview him. Mr. Greenwald places the Snowden revelations in the proper context. The most interesting chapter is Chaper 4: “The Harm of Surveillance”. The theme of the chapter is about the rise of the “Surveillance State” and the corresponding loss of privacy. It’s a fascinating description of how the “Surveillance State” (which includes government-motivated “whistleblowers“) both affects and changes the “human condition”.
To repeat: The “surveillance state” changes the human condition. An earlier post on this blog – “The Lives of Others: The True Significance of Bradley Birkenfeld” included:
It’s clear that if approached by the Stasi, one had little choice but to cooperate.
What does this have to do with Bradley Birkenfeld, the IRS and the 104 million payout? Well, at a minimum it means that the IRS will reward, people who report on the activities of others. The proof is that they are willing to pay. They even call them “whistle blowers”. As Sovereign Man points out, this surely will provide incentives to people to spy on each other. What does this mean about the future of American Society? Amazingly, I came across a brilliant analysis which begins as follows:
In 1787, philosopher and economist Jeremy Bentham proposed a new plan for a jail that would allow a very few officials to continuously monitor the inmates. He called his plan the panopticon.
“The essence of it consists, then, in the centrality of the inspector’s situation, combined with the well-known and most effectual contrivances for seeing without being seen,” he wrote in describing his plan. Under the plan, because the inspector — i.e., the jailer — could see without being seen, the inmates could never know whether they were being watched or not. As a result, they had to assume that they were under complete surveillance at all times, with the hoped-for result being that they would modify their behavior accordingly.
I commend the complete article to you.
And now back to Mr. Greenwald …
(For the transcript of a fascinating speech given by Mr. Greenwald on the “Surveillance State” – read this.) A need for “privacy” is part of what it means to be “human”. Therefore, governments that erode “privacy” erode “humanness”. Mr. Greenwald’s book is a must read. (In addition, I highly highly recommend you see the movie “CitizenFour” which is a documentary about the Snowden revelations. Incredibly, the makers of “CitizenFour” are now being sued – go figure.)
Mr. Greenwald writes (at the end of Chapter 4):
Forgoing privacy in a quest for absolute safety is as harmful to a healthy psyche and life of an individual as it is to a healthy political culture. For the individual, safety first, means a life of paralysis and fear, never entering a car or airplane, never engaging in an activity that entails risk, never weighing quality of life over quantity, and paying any price to avoid danger.
Fear mongering is a favorite tactic by authorities precisely because fear so persuasively rationalizes an expansion of power and curtailment of rights. Since the beginning of the War On Terror, Americans have frequently been told that they must relinquish their core political rights if they are to have any hope of avoiding catastrophe.
(The very first post on this blog (October 20, 2011) described how the “fear mongering” caused by the “war on terror”, has led to the erosion of freedom.)
Brandeis – “The Right To Privacy” – Privacy and the human condition
In Chapter 4, Mr. Greenwald described an essay written in 1890 by Louis Brandeis (of Supreme Court Justice fame) and Samuel Warren. The essay is titled: “The Right To Privacy“. Think of it. The essay was written in 1890 which was almost 100 years before the “assault” on privacy began in earnest. It was almost 100 years before the “price to participate in the digital age” was the “loss of any expectation of privacy”. Yet, Justice Brandeis was was writing about “privacy” and the importance of privacy in the human condition. In 2014 his 1890 essay was referenced and discussed by Glen Greenwald in “No Place To Hide”.
The Brandeis essay includes:
We must therefore conclude that the rights, so protected, whatever their exact nature, are not rights arising from contract or from special trust, but are rights as against the world ; and, as above stated, the principle which has been applied to protect these rights is in reality not the principle of private property, unless that word be used in an extended and unusual sense. The principle which protects personal writings and any other productions of the intellect of or the emotions, is the right to privacy, and the law has no new principle to formulate when it extends this protection to the personal appearance, sayings, acts, and to personal relation, domestic or otherwise.40
You will find the complete essay (written in 1890) here. Justice Brandeis was identifying and articulating an important interest that is at the heart of the debate today.
An attack on privacy is an attack on freedom itself.
Reagan reminds us that: "Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction" https://t.co/RCc2rlkDZm
— U.S. Citizen Abroad (@USCitizenAbroad) December 27, 2014
John Adams reminded us that:
“Liberty, once lost, is lost forever“
“A Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.” ― John Adams https://t.co/iaCtY5qsuI
— U.S. Citizen Abroad (@USCitizenAbroad) December 27, 2014
Epilogue:
While thinking about this issue, I discovered a bit of interesting (maybe) trivia. The 1967 case of Afroyim v. Rusk is playing a major role in the life of “Americans abroad”. (This is the Supreme Court decision that establishes that Congress cannot simple “strip people of U.S. citizenship” without their consent. I wrote about the possible impact of Afroyim on the treatment of Americans abroad in an earlier post. There is a strong consensus that Americans abroad are being forced to renounce their citizenship. Yet, in Afroyim, Justice Black reminds us that:
Citizenship is no light trifle 268*268 to be jeopardized any moment Congress decides to do so under the name of one of its general or implied grants of power. In some instances, loss of citizenship can mean that a man is left without the protection of citizenship in any country in the world—as a man without a country. Citizenship in this Nation is a part of a co-operative affair. Its citizenry is the country and the country is its citizenry. The very nature of our free government makes it completely incongruous to have a rule of law under which a group of citizens temporarily in office can deprive another group of citizens of their citizenship. We hold that the Fourteenth Amendment was designed to, and does, protect every citizen of this Nation against a congressional forcible destruction of his citizenship, whatever his creed, color, or race. Our holding does no more than to give to this citizen that which is his own, a constitutional right to remain a citizen in a free country unless he voluntarily relinquishes that citizenship.
As of late there there has been some discussion of a legal challenge to citizenship-based taxation (or at least aspects of it) by using the 14th amendment arguments. I suggest that the above quote from Justice Black’s decision should be a leading part of that challenge.
The argument would be:
1. Maybe citizenship-based taxation is NOT unconstitutional per se; but
2. The rules that U.S. government is imposing (under the guise of citizenship-based taxation) are forcing people to renounce U.S. citizenship and are therefore unconstitutional.
The lawyer representing Afroyim (at least in the early stages was Nanette Dembitz. Nanette Dembitz was a niece of Justice Louis Brandeis. Interestingly the impact of Justice Brandeis and people like Nanette Dembitz – who recognized the importance of the individual – carry on today.
“Canadian law, or UK law, or French law, may cause problems for US-born CLN-less citizens in Canada, Britain, or France.”
Yes, and when local law implements US policy, US policy causes problems for those resident in that locality.
Japan T:
The IGA1 implements US policy towards non-US banks.
Non-US banks in IGA1 countries must report US-born CLN-less accountholders to the local tax agency.
“Yes, and when local law implements US policy, US policy causes problems for those resident in that locality.”
It’s the way the local law in IGA1 countries implements US policy towards non-US banks that may cause problems for US-born CLN-less accountholders.
Remove the birthplace discrimination, and same-country accounts held by US-born CLN-less accountholders cease to be reportable.
“Remove the birthplace discrimination,”
Hop on it.
It’s being hopped on, in Canada and in France.
Too late foe those whose data has already been shared.
I think most people would want to stop future reporting of their financial information without their consent, if possible
Moreover, if the French action results in French US-born CLN-less accountholders being non-FATCA-reportable, US-born individuals in the whole of the EU may then find it easier to open an account.
A benefit well worth having.
“I think most people would want to stop future reporting of their financial information without their consent, if possible
Moreover, if the French action results in French US-born CLN-less accountholders being non-FATCA-reportable, US-born individuals in the whole of the EU may then find it easier to open an account.
A benefit well worth having.”
Closing the barn door after the horse has escaped. You can’t undo a data leak, unless you move, close all your accounts, change names and then open new accounts under the new names, damage is done, Like the aids virus. May not know you have it untill decades down the road, them the trouble begins.
But Japan T, these actions have no effect on you. Whether you think they’re worthwhile isn’t really relevant.
Speaking for myself, I’m looking forward to seeing how the courts rule, and am optimistic that the actions will succeed.
What, the court cases? Direct affect, no. But any brick or bricks that can be knocked out of the wall is good for all of us.
However, if say the Canadian lawsuit succeeds, then wouldn’t Canada either have to accept a model 1 IGA or have their banks fined?
Opps, I think that should be Canda having to accept and IGA type 2 or have its banks fined.
That is indeed the gamble. Bad outcome – the “hard Brexit” scenario with banks risking withholding on US payments (not exactly fines but same effect) if deemed to be non-compliant. Good outcome – renegotiated IGA that excludes residents or something.
But where in the FATCA legislation or regulation do we find room for “Good outcome – renegotiated IGA that excludes residents or something.”?
That is indeed the gamble.
Not saying we, yes we as I have sent money in several times to help pay for the Canadian lawsuit, shouldn’t try the legal route, but we also need to be prepared for whatever is likely to happen if we lose and if we win.
Personally, I think that if the courts, through back channels, learn what is likely to happen to the financial health of their nation should we win, they’ll find a way for us not to win.
Just my gut feeling.
That was always my concern with the lawsuit – be careful what you wish for. FATCA currently isn’t a huge problem for dual citizens in Canada. Self-certify as non-US and you’re done. If that’s not possible, who cares as long as you don’t have US assets, you can’t be touched? (Yes, data security and ID theft. No need to comment, I’m discussing only the tax and reporting situation.) FIs aren’t denying anyone service and all the tax-protected savings and investment account types are excluded from reporting by the IGA. The situation could be worse.
I still think it’s worth taking the risk if it starts the process of taking this down, maybe by gaining an exclusion for residents or something. To some extent US threats may be self-deterring or unenforceable.
With luck, the French case will come before the ECJ. If the IGA1 agreements are found to be in breach of EU rights, DAC will be invalid.
The US can join the CRS if it wants banks in EU Member States to report US-resident accountholders.
I said:
“With luck, the French case will come before the ECJ. If the IGA1 agreements are found to be in breach of EU rights, DAC will be invalid.”
Or rather, the Member State IGA1 agreements will be illegal.
@JC
I was a USC, I am now a happy mono-citizen.
At any rate, I’m missing your point. IMO CBT is the root of all the problems USCs face. If USCs were able to sever their US tax residency when moving abroad, like, e.g., Canadians can, then it would not make sense for all these tax related regulations (FATCA, FBAR, foreign trust, etc) to apply to them. No tax residency, no issue. Thus, the problem is not so much being a USC, it’s that the US unconditionally views USCs as being tax residents. It’s something of a nuanced point, I’ll grant, but it’s the right way to look at it as it focuses on the root cause of the myriad issues plaguing USCs – CBT.
tdott:
“No tax residency, no issue. Thus, the problem is not so much being a USC, it’s that the US unconditionally views USCs as being tax residents”
Indeed.
A registration system to allow expat USCs register as non-US-resident (similar to the one advocated by ACA or the one reportedly proposed by HOLDER), could solve many problems, if implemented properly. (A big “if”.)
@plaxy
A big “if” indeed.
As well, if some mechanism to achieve RBT, or something similar to it, could not be achieved with the tax hating Republicans controlling the Presidency, Senate, and the House, then I think it’s fair to say that it will be impossible to see this with the Democrats (who think any expat is a potential tax evader) now controlling the House. Sadly for those still clinging to hope, I think the time has come and gone to expect to see any meaningful, positive change.
Legislative changes aimed at relieving expat USCs of the citizenship obligation to report worldwide income may indeed be unlikely, given that most of the estimated seven or eight thousand USCs living outside the US don’t actually file US tax returns and are neither committing tax evasion or suffering from double taxation.
But the IRS systems are supposedly being overhauled, and indeed a revamp is probably inevitable as the advance of Big Data speeds up. US international taxation means Apple & Co, not individuals scattered around the world receiving hardly any income that the US can actually tax. A registration system for individual expats would make sense, it seems to me, as part of the realignment of enforcement resources.
Speculation, of course.
Correction:
“estimated seven or eight thousand USCs”
should be
“estimated seven or eight million USCs”
I would add that they’d quite happy to get fines from those who do not owe actual tax and that what you describe is a possible route for the IRS to fund those to fine.
“I would add that they’d quite happy to get fines from those who do not owe actual tax and that what you describe is a possible route for the IRS to fund those to fine.”
Assuming you mean “find” rather than “fund”, that doesn’t make sense. Non-filing US-passport-holders living outside the US would be very easy to “find” if the US wanted to “find” them; they don’t get “fined” by the IRS, because they haven’t done anything to get “fined” for.
An optional registration system might reduce the number filing (depending on the fee), cutting down on the current sheer pointless waste of time and resources for both the US and currently-filing expats.
It would of course have no effect on those who neither file nor register.