FATCA and Australia – Part 1 of 2

1,187 thoughts on “FATCA and Australia – Part 1 of 2”

1. Publius / badger

   … or try a search in Google of *The Australian Taxation Office has stepped up investigations into Australians with Swiss bank accounts* which brought the article up for me.

2. In the past five years Ms Rinehart has topped Forbes’ rich list but this year she has been unseated by another woman, reclusive American heiress and longtime Australian resident Blair Parry-Okeden.

   Definitely not on Twitter. How one might interest in some philanthropy such as ADCS and ADCT ?

3. @Calgary411
   It is revisiting the webpage that is a problem, so anyone who thinks that article might be handy should save the page (I print to pdf usually when I read something that is a keeper, but I didn’t do it this time and then though that I should tell JC about it).
   @JC
   5bn ouch! That’s a lot of FBAR fines. I thought it was good that that the article made clear that these people were Australian taxpayers.

4. Thanks, Publius.

5. Republican Debate: Watch Live Stream Free Online today Aussie Fri
   http://time.com/4193925/watch-republican-debate-free-online/
   The hashtag for the debate is #GOPDebate. TWEET away maybe they will bring up issue on air

6. From Daniel Kuettel
   Rand Paul, Rubio, Bush and maybe Cruz. Paul has a track record of supporting expats, Rubio has a balanced platform and supports RBT and Bush pledged to make changes for expats. Cruz needs to clarify his platform better.

7. From Phil Hodgens weekly blog – Superannuations, Noncovered Expatriations, and the Stealth Exit Tax

   http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b343af01b0c3e75921e909c4d&id=c223541546&e=f925d57a9e

   What a Convoluted tangled Web. Who would want to undergo this process.

8. OUR CANDIDATES
   Democrats Abroad recently reached out to the Democratic Presidential candidates on issues important to overseas US citizens. We asked for their responses to these issues. Three of the candidates on the Democrats Abroad primary ballot (Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Rocky de la Fuente) replied with the following answers. Martin O’Malley did not reply and has suspended his campaign.

   Hillary Clinton | Rocky De La Fuente | Bernie Sanders

   HILLARY CLINTON
   FATCA: Would you support the FATCA “Same Country Safe Harbor” for Americans abroad, the regulatory reform that Democrats Abroad recommends for fixing FATCA’s problems but retaining its strength?

   I’ve heard loudly and clearly about the burdens that FATCA and other reporting places on Americans living abroad. I understand that this is an extremely important issue – and is creating disruptions in the basic, day-to-day lives of everyday Americans living abroad. I’ve heard that it can be harder to open a bank account, harder to save for retirement, and harder to get a mortgage. I share these concerns – Americans living abroad shouldn’t face excessive burdens in their lives. I know that the vast majority of Americans living abroad are paying their fair share, and we should ease burdens on law abiding Americans living abroad while focusing on the real, true offenders. This is a complex area, and we need to make sure we don’t weaken enforcements against true tax cheats, while making sure we don’t create additional unnecessary burdens. I am committed to working with Americans living abroad and members of Congress to find the right solutions.

   RBT: Would you support the replacement of the current system of taxing overseas Americans, known as citizenship-based taxation, with a system of residence-based taxation?

   I know that most Americans living abroad are just trying to make a living and provide for their families. I believe that we need a broad discussion about reforming our tax code to cut taxes for hard-working, middle class American families living both here and abroad, and to ask the wealthiest Americans to pay their fair share. That means, among other things, closing loopholes that allow many hedge fund managers to pay a lower tax rate than nurses or teachers and supporting proposals like the Buffet Rule. But it also means closing loopholes that create incentives for corporations to ship jobs and profits overseas, and making sure that the wealthiest Americans can’t move overseas to avoid paying taxes. Americans, regardless of where they live, often benefit from American education, infrastructure, legal protections, and trade policies. This is a complicated issue and I will work with Americans living abroad and members of Congress to cut taxes for hardworking, middle class Americans, but also avoid creating any adverse incentives for those looking to avoid contributing their fair share.

   FBAR: Would you support reforms to FBAR regulations to address these concerns and inequities?

   As president, I will work with Americans living abroad and members of Congress to examine filing requirements with the aim of avoiding redundancies and minimizing unnecessary paperwork and confusion. Any reforms would also need to be scrutinized to avoid weakening government capacity for monitoring illegal activity or tax avoidance facilitated by holding foreign bank accounts.

   Medicare portability: Would you support an amendment to the Medicare law permitting American citizens to use Medicare benefits to pay for health care in approved medical facilities located outside the USA?

   I’ve fought to protect and strengthen Medicare throughout my career and have continued to press the importance of this lifeline in this campaign. I support further examination of how Americans over 65 living abroad and eligible for Medicare could apply their benefits to care at approved medical facilities located outside the U.S. 5.

   HR-3078: Would you support the establishment of a Commission on Americans Abroad to study and propose remedies to U.S. policies that harm or unfairly burden Americans living outside the U.S. (as provided for in House bill HR-3078)?

   As president I would support a bipartisan effort to examine how the U.S. government’s laws and executive actions impact U.S. citizens living abroad, like the Commission on Americans Abroad proposed in House bill HR-3078, which is sponsored by Representative Carolyn Maloney, whose endorsement I am honored to have in this campaign.

   Windfall Eliminations Provision “WEP”: Would you support the examination of the WEP and its impact on U.S. citizens abroad to establish a remedy that preserves the social security benefits fairly earned by Americans abroad through their U.S. working life?

   Americans living abroad, like all hardworking Americans, have a right to the Social Security benefits they have earned when they retire, and I am concerned that the WEP as now designed is not fair to many Americans who have paid into Social Security but see their benefits reduced due to the WEP. That’s why I support further examination of how the WEP impacts American citizens abroad to ensure that they are treated fairly in the Social Security system.

   Further, I will fight to expand Social Security for those who need it most and who are treated unfairly today. This includes giving Social Security credit for caregiving and expanding benefits for widows who can now see their benefits fall by as much as 50 percent when a spouse dies. And I will oppose Republican efforts to reduce annual cost-of-living adjustments or raise the retirement age. Finally, to ensure these critical benefits for decades to come, I will ask the highest-income Americans to pay more, including options to tax some of their income above the current Social Security cap, and taxing some of their income not currently taken into account by the Social Security system.

   FAST Act passport revocation: Would you support, as part of the implementation of the 2015 FAST Act, these requests aimed at preserving the security of Americans abroad and their families?

   Every American should pay what they owe under our tax laws. In enforcing those laws, it is also essential to preserve the safety and security of Americans living abroad. Ensuring the security of Americans living abroad was a central part of my job when I served as Secretary of State and, as president, will continue to be of great importance to me. The State Department and any other U.S. government agency must strive to ensure Americans living abroad are provided with timely information and open lines of communication with their government. As public servants, it is our job to look out for the safety of all Americans, including those residing overseas. That is why as president I would make sure that the 2015 FAST Act is implemented fairly and in such a way as to ensure we protect Americans. I will ensure that Americans receive timely and accurate information about their tax responsibilities and are given ample opportunity to remedy or resolve any related issues, within a reasonable timeframe, before a passport is revoked due to a tax delinquency.

   Hillary Clinton | Rocky De La Fuente | Bernie Sanders

   ROCKY DE LA FUENTE
   1. FATCA: Would you support the FATCA “Same Country Safe Harbor” for Americans abroad, the regulatory reform that Democrats Abroad recommends for fixing FATCA’s problems but retaining its strength?

   YES
   Having traveled extensively and having lived abroad, I am very familiar with the banking challenges that FACTA presents. While its intent is worthy, its approach is flawed. It casts a broad accusatory net that almost treats U.S. citizens living abroad as if they were presumed to be guilty of tax evasion. While the issue of tax evasion is a legitimate concern of our federal government, the method of identifying evidence of such action should be efficient as well as effective. It should not be structured upon regulations that are singularly designed to facilitate an agency’s convenience at the expense of creating an unconscionable burden to citizens living abroad. That being said, FACTA serves a legitimate purpose and should not be repealed. However, its untenable provisions should be reviewed and replaced with regulatory requirements that do not destroy our citizens’ banking relationships overseas.

   2. RBT: Would you support the replacement of the current system of taxing overseas Americans, known as citizenship-based taxation, with a system of residence-based taxation?

   YES
   Citizenship-based taxation places an undue burden on U.S. citizens living abroad. In effect, it imposes dual-tax exposure upon individuals who, other than on a limited basis, do not represent an economic burden on the programs and services that our federal government provides. Residence-based taxation reflects one’s rationale contribution to the programs and services that affect the lives of those who reside in any given country and city. As Democrats Abroad so cleverly implies, unless the United States aspires to become the next Eritrea, it is time to join the rest of the world in recognizing the nexus between taxation and the programs and services such monies are meant to fund.

   3. FBAR: Would you support reforms to FBAR regulations to address these concerns and inequities?

   YES
   In our federal government’s zeal to create agencies and promulgate regulations, it often fails to do due diligence with regard to redundant and conflicting regulations. The overlap between FACTA and FBAR is an example of such failure. Both address aspects of tax evasion, and while FBAR’s reach may be more comprehensive, a single regulatory approach would be more effective and efficient and far less burdensome with respect to law-abiding citizens living abroad. I would suggest thinking beyond implementing reforms to FBAR and FACTA and explore how a more focused, consolidated approach might be enacted to concentrate on the actual activities that are intended to be policed while eliminating redundant reporting requirements and facilitating alternative forms of filing so as not to unduly burden law-abiding citizens abroad.

   4. Medicare portability: Would you support an amendment to the Medicare law permitting American citizens to use Medicare benefits to pay for health care in approved medical facilities located outside the USA.

   YES
   While I understand the countervailing argument that the United States has an interest having Medicare disbursements “recirculate” within its economy and that there may be legitimate concern about monitoring fraud in foreign countries, the reality is that Medicare is truly an entitlement since its funding comes from those who have made forced contributions to it. Individuals who have contributed to the Medicare systems should be able to deploy any disbursements where and as they choose to secure the medical treatment they need. Imposing limitations that are for the convenience of our government as opposed to the best interests of its citizens does not reflect the values upon which our Nation was founded. It is not only an unsound economic approach, it is morally wrong.

   5. HR-3078: Would you support the establishment of a Commission on Americans Abroad to study and propose remedies to U.S. policies that harm or unfairly burden Americans living outside the U.S. (as provided for in House bill HR-3078)?

   YES
   As evidenced by the other issues discussed in this forum, the federal government’s regulatory environment is often myopic. It crafts solutions that are executable at home but nearly impossible to implement overseas other than at an enormous cost to our citizens living abroad. The Constitution begins with the words “We the People of the United States” It does not begin with the words “We the People of the United States except for those citizens living abroad.” HR-3078 is reflective of that truth. To suggest that we differentiate between U.S. citizens because of their geographic location is to lose sight of the rights that are granted under the Constitution.

   6. Windfall Eliminations Provision “WEP”: Would you support the examination of the WEP and its impact on U.S. citizens abroad to establish a remedy that preserves the social security benefits fairly earned by Americans abroad through their U.S. working life?

   YES
   This issue parallels the arguments made with respect to Medicare. Again, Social Security is an entitlement due to the way Congress has chosen to fund it. The arbitrary nature of the factor that WEP applies to address “windfall” retirement distributions can be unfair and capricious as it related to citizens living abroad. It needs to be examined and reformed to address its original intent in a fair and equitable manner rather than a one-size-fits-all approach that can be unduly burdensome to our citizens overseas.

   7. FAST Act passport revocation: Would you support, as part of the implementation of the 2015 FAST Act, these requests aimed at preserving the security of Americans abroad and their families?

   YES
   Our federal government has continued to expand the authority of the IRS well beyond its original purpose. It has become a quasi- militaristic agency because of the enforcement power it has been given. Unfortunately, it has too often demonstrated an inability to perform its enforcement responsibilities in a way that is congruent with the mandates of our Fifth Amendment. U.S. citizens, regardless of their place of residence, are entitled to Due Process. The guidelines suggested by Democrats Abroad are in direct alignment with rationale thought and a preservation of Due Process for everyone involved. It is somewhat embarrassing that we live in a time when Congress must be reminded of its responsibility to protect our fundamental rights.

   Hillary Clinton | Rocky De La Fuente | Bernie Sanders

   BERNIE SANDERS
   Question: Would you support the FATCA Same Country Safe Harbor for Americans abroad, the regulatory reform that Democrats Abroad recommends for fixing FATCA’s problems but retaining its strength?

   Yes. I support the “Same Country Safe Harbor” proposal and I commend Democrats Abroad for its leadership in working on this important initiative. In my view, banking and other financial services provided to overseas Americans should be treated as a local activity.

   We need to make it easier for law-abiding Americans living overseas to manage their personal finances and buy a house, while making it harder for tax cheats to hide their money in offshore tax havens to avoid paying their fair share in taxes. I look forward to working with you to turn these goals into action.

   The same country exception would ease the burden on overseas Americans – teachers, IT workers, researchers, small business owners, academics, aid workers and stay-at-home parents – and permit the U.S. Treasury to focus on curbing tax avoidance by Americans living inside the United States who move their money to offshore tax havens to avoid paying taxes.

   Question: Would you support the replacement of the current system of taxing overseas Americans, known as citizenship-based taxation, with a system of residence-based taxation?

   This is something that deserves serious consideration. Other than Eritrea, the U.S. is the only country that I am aware of that requires the filing of two annual tax returns to reconcile complex tax codes of different countries.

   In my view, we can provide tax relief to middle-class families living overseas, while prohibiting large corporations and the wealthy from avoiding over $100 billion a year in taxes by stashing their cash in the Cayman Islands and other offshore tax havens.

   Question: Would you support reforms to FBAR regulations to address these concerns and inequities?

   Yes, I look forward to working with Democrats abroad to address these concerns and make this system more equitable. As you know the FBAR reporting threshold has not been adjusted for inflation since it was first initiated in the early 1970s. We need to look at that. We also need to look at removing the unnecessary duplication in the reporting requirements between FBAR and FATCA.

   I am also sympathetic to the concerns raised by older Americans living abroad with the mandatory online reporting requirements that are now in place.

   At a time when this country has an $18.4 trillion national debt and so many unmet needs, I do believe that we need to do everything we can to eliminate tax evasion. I also believe that we should be rewarding, not punishing, middle-class citizens living abroad who are following the rules. In my view, we can and we must accomplish both of those goals.

   Question: Would you support an amendment to the Medicare law permitting American citizens to use Medicare benefits to pay for health care in approved medical facilities located outside the United States?

   I support a Medicare-for-all single-payer health care plan to make health care a right, not a privilege, for all Americans, including Americans living and working abroad. Instead of spending federal health care dollars on the multi-million dollar salaries of insurance company CEOs, it is time to use this money to guarantee health care to every American citizen.

   As you know, retired U.S. military personnel and their dependents living overseas are reimbursed by the U.S. government for most of their medical bills through the TriCare For Life system. In my view, there is no reason why we cannot use the Tricare program as a model for a Medicare delivery program for all Americans living overseas.

   Question: Would you support the establishment of a Commission on Americans Abroad to study and propose remedies to U.S. policies that harm or unfairly burden Americans living outside the U.S. (as provided for in HR-3078)?

   U.S. citizens living abroad deserve to feel that their country and the officials elected to represent them consider their interests just as they consider the interests of Americans living in the United States. I support the establishment of a Commission on Americans Abroad to examine the impact of federal financial reporting requirements, the ability to vote in U.S. elections, and access to federal programs like Social Security and Medicare for Americans living abroad.

   Question: Would you support the examination of the WEP and its impact on Americans abroad to establish a remedy that preserves the social security benefits fairly earned by Americans abroad through their U.S. working life?

   Yes. I have been a strong supporter of repealing the WEP to provide fair and equitable treatment to all workers on Social Security, including our teachers, firefighters, police and other public servants who have contributed into Social Security.

   Further, at a time when senior poverty is going up, our job must be to expand benefits, not cut them. I have introduced a plan to increase Social Security benefits by over $1,300 a year for seniors who have income of less than $16,000 a year. My plan also extends the solvency of Social Security for more than 50 years by lifting the cap on taxable income so that the wealthiest 1.5 percent of Americans pays the same percentage of their income into Social Security as everyone else.

   Question: Would you support, as part of the implementation of the 2015 FAST Act, these requests aimed at preserving the security of Americans abroad and their families?

   I support efforts to ensure that Americans living and working abroad have access to information on tax debts and proper notice before the IRS requests that the State Department revoke or deny the renewal of the passports of U.S. citizens. Proper due process provides procedural and legal safeguards that permits an American abroad an opportunity to satisfy tax debts prior to the denial or revocation of a citizen’s passport. I also believe that safeguards should be put in place to protect and preserve the security of Americans living abroad and their families.

   Hillary Clinton | Rocky De La Fuente | Bernie Sanders

9. FINALLY FEATURED IN AUSTRALIA

   US 2:36pm February 11, 2016
   Record numbers of US citizens surrender their passports to avoid paying double tax
   James Gorman By James Gorman

   FTBCxPGL
   Thousands of Americans are renouncing their status as US citizens in order to avoid the tax man.

   The US Treasury reported a record 4,279 people abandoned their claim to citizenship in 2015, with one of the chief reasons being expats getting stung by double taxation.

   In 2010 the US Government established the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FACTA), which means if citizens live overseas they are required to lodge tax returns in the homeland as well as their adopted country.

   In an interview with the BBC, a woman identified only as Jane said it had been a tough decision to forfeit her citizenship.

   “If it weren’t for FATCA and the decision by the bank, I’d never be doing this. Never ever. It’s just breaking me in half,” she said.

   US taxpayers living abroad must declare foreign assets worth more than $200,000 USD (AUD$283,585.37).

   While not every expat falls into this price bracket, it does place heavy burdens on foreign banks who are strongarmed into enforcing the laws.

   Financial institutions across the globe risk cutting ties with US counterparts if they fail to report foreign tax.

   The Australian Taxation Office (ATO) warned any Australian financial institution failing to comply with FATCA would be declared by the US as a non-participating financial institution.

   DeVere financial advice group’s founder Nigel Green said the contentious tax laws were turning American citizens into “financial pariahs”.

   “Foreign financial institutions now routinely refuse to handle American clients, even if they have been clients for years, as it is too much trouble and too costly to comply with FATCA,” Green told the Financial Advisor.

   “Most Americans abroad are proud of their citizenship and indeed many find it an integral part of their identity when living overseas.”

   © ninemsn 2016

10. Glad to see “something” reported, but I’m disappointed that the article is so shallow. “To avoid the tax man” makes it sound like we’re all cheating on tax! And no word on the 30% penalty/extortion of AU banks, or that FATCA undermines AU’s autonomy, makes AU the US’s “arm” of THEIR tax system, pulls $$$ OUT of AU, or that it applies to AU citizens who are dual US (AU citizens under the bus).

    Very disappointing…

11. The article is open for comments. I’ve tried several times to post the link, but it must be going into the spam folder.

12. Thanks, Karen.

    Here is the link: http://www.9news.com.au/world/2016/02/11/11/26/record-number-of-americans-giving-up-their-us-citizenships

13. Check out and comment

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2016/02/18/dear-mrs-obama-why-i-gave-up-my-u-s-citizenship/?utm_source=followingimmediate&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20160218#454eea5d4429

14. Many people could ask pertinent questions let no stone be upturned

    Democrats Abroad
    Dear Jak,
    Global Town Hall Update

    Senator Bernie Sanders has accepted our invitation to join this Sunday’s Democrats Abroad Global Town Hall. And from Secretary Hillary Clinton’s campaign we will be joined by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Clinton’s top foreign policy advisor, Jake Sullivan. That’s this Sunday, February 21 from 12 PM -3 PM (Washington, DC time – please note the expanded time).

    This is a great opportunity to hear the campaigns speak directly to Democrats Abroad and answer our questions ahead of the Democrats Abroad Global Presidential Primary. If you haven’t already RSVPed for the Global Town Hall, RSVP here now: http://www.democratsabroad.org/global_town_hall
    Global Presidential Primary Reminder

    Just a reminder, the Global Presidential Primary starts March 1st and runs through March 8th. Voting in the Global Primary affects how many delegates each candidate receives from Democrats Abroad – so take the opportunity to vote where you live and help make that decision.

    For more information about the Global Presidential Primary, go to http://www.democrats abroad.org/gppto find out where your Voting Center is – or to download a ballot so that you can vote by mail or email.
    See you on Sunday!

    Julia Bryan
    International Secretary

    Art Schankler
    International Treasurer

15. Been trying to get attention within Australia as to the US intervention into Australian domestic affairs represented by tax treaty + CBT + FBAR + FATCA. More on the way!

    http://isaacbrocksociety.ca/fatca-and-australia/comment-page-20/#comment-6726208

16. JC commented on #Australia funds America’s #FATCA #Ethnic Identification System.

    in response to Petros:

    FATCA is the method of identifying suspected U.S. persons, who might be residing outside of USA–working and saving in non-American financial institutions. Australia: The costs in Australia are estimated to be 255 million AUS for implementation, and 22.7 million AUS for each year of maintenance. Over 10 years, this totals 482.68 million AUS. With 77,000 […]

    I have been trying to get the attention of the Australian Government to the injustices, especially those allowed on Australian soil by the tax treaty.

    http://isaacbrocksociety.ca/fatca-and-australia/comment-page-20/#comment-6726208

17. Please comfirm did Bernies state he supports RBT and where and when can we see playback of Town Hall event ? Cheers JD

    Julia Bryan
    Hi JD, we will have the recording up shortly and then I can confirm.
    Best, Julia
    Sent from my iPhone
    mailed-by: demsabroad.eu

    Julia Bryan
    Hi Jak,
    I don’t know the exact question formation but our moderators will definitely be asking the candidates their views on taxation issues that affect Americans abroad as this is a concern for everyone of our members. Thank you for your note! Also, if you’d like to send in your question via Twitter by using #GlobalTownHall and it hasn’t been already asked, it may be chosen during the call as we are hoping to feature at least one twitter question per candidate.

    Best, Julia

    Democrats Abroad (@DemsAbroad)
    Hi. If you were on the call, we did specifically ask him that and he is in favor of quickly repealing CBT and getting RBT.
    (https://twitter.com/DemsAbroad/status/701507138548535300?s=03)

    Democrats Abroad (@DemsAbroad) tweeted
    Senator Sanders states that he supports the Safe Country Safe Harbor proposal to reform #FATCA. #GlobalTownHall
    (https://twitter.com/DemsAbroad/status/701485828925734912?s=03)

    Democrats Abroad (@DemsAbroad) tweeted
    Hi. If you were on the call, we did specifically ask him that and he is in favor of quickly repealing CBT and getting RBT.
    (https://twitter.com/DemsAbroad/status/701507138548535300?s=03)

    Alexander Reuvekamp (@AlexReuvekamp) tweeted
    #GlobalTownHall I wonder how important the fatca problem is for Clinton. I would like to see a promise to change to RBT instead of CBT
    (https://twitter.com/AlexReuvekamp/status/701461258931929088?s=03)

    Martha McDevitt-Pugh (@McDevittPugh) tweeted
    Overall tax reform required to address taxation of US citizens abroad. You should not be punished for living abroad #GlobalTownHall
    (https://twitter.com/McDevittPugh/status/701462525586628609?s=03)

18. How about some retweets ??

    JakDac
    @DemsAbroad Does he support RBT did he state this ?
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19. Facebook / tweet to Hillary

    @HillaryClinton @DemsAbroad Bernies Expat Town Hall Does he support RBT did he state this ?@DemsAbroad Yep. He did.?? Hillary your stance ?

    https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/

    Jak Dac @HillaryClinton @DemsAbroad Bernies Expat Town Hall Does he support RBT did he state this ?@DemsAbroad Yep. He did.?? Hillary your stance ?
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20. Get in touch ask questions
    toddstvrain@gmail.com
    Australia Chair, Todd. :
    http://www.democratsabroad.org (general) or else the Australia pages: http://www.democratsabroad.org\au

21. toddstvrain@gmail.com (Democrats abroad Australia)
    Hilary Clinton’s position on RBT is listed here: http://www.democratsabroad.org/our_candidates
    Opinions ??

22. Hillary interesting / bankable ?????
    http://www.democratsabroad.org/our_candidates

    2. RBT: Would you support the replacement of the current system of taxing overseas Americans, known as citizenship-based taxation, with a system of residence-based taxation?

    YES
    Citizenship-based taxation places an undue burden on U.S. citizens living abroad. In effect, it imposes dual-tax exposure upon individuals who, other than on a limited basis, do not represent an economic burden on the programs and services that our federal government provides. Residence-based taxation reflects one’s rationale contribution to the programs and services that affect the lives of those who reside in any given country and city. As Democrats Abroad so cleverly implies, unless the United States aspires to become the next Eritrea, it is time to join the rest of the world in recognizing the nexus between taxation and the programs and services such monies are meant to fund.

23. @Jak Dac — that comment was attributed to Rocky De La Fuente (whoever he is), not Hillary. Hillary’s comment re RBT was:

    RBT: Would you support the replacement of the current system of taxing overseas Americans, known as citizenship-based taxation, with a system of residence-based taxation?

    I know that most Americans living abroad are just trying to make a living and provide for their families. I believe that we need a broad discussion about reforming our tax code to cut taxes for hard-working, middle class American families living both here and abroad, and to ask the wealthiest Americans to pay their fair share. That means, among other things, closing loopholes that allow many hedge fund managers to pay a lower tax rate than nurses or teachers and supporting proposals like the Buffet Rule. But it also means closing loopholes that create incentives for corporations to ship jobs and profits overseas, and making sure that the wealthiest Americans can’t move overseas to avoid paying taxes. Americans, regardless of where they live, often benefit from American education, infrastructure, legal protections, and trade policies. This is a complicated issue and I will work with Americans living abroad and members of Congress to cut taxes for hardworking, middle class Americans, but also avoid creating any adverse incentives for those looking to avoid contributing their fair share.

    Less than satisfactory.

24. ????????????

    To be clear unlike Bernie (whom on Town Hall stated he supports RBT) she has not indicated her support for RBT correct ?

    Cheers,
    JD
    toddstvrain@gmail.com (Democrats abroad Australia)
    I can only go by the information on the link I just sent, which indicates she hasn’t taken an official position even though the question was put directly to her.

    toddstvrain@gmail.com (Democrats abroad Australia)
    That’s my interpretation of what’s on our website. I suggest you look for more information on her website or contact her campaign for more information.

    https://forms.hillaryclinton.com/contact

25. RBT solves EVERYTHING & ends the quagmire of suffocating forms, tax-related confusion, & lack of US gov’t “buck-stops-here” culpability/responsibility.

    End CBT & the nightmare goes away (for the everyday expat).

    The “positions” of the candidates looks like a whole lot of “committees” & very little change.

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