cross-posted from citizenshipsolutions.ca
by John Richardson
Introduction …
Most meetings with Mr. #FBAR take place in "The Twilight Zone" https://t.co/9UJw0GxGIf pic.twitter.com/uqjqYsKKtZ
— Citizenship Lawyer (@ExpatriationLaw) February 5, 2017
This post is one more of a collection of FBAR posts on this blog. The most recent FBAR posts are
here and here.
The “unfiled FBAR” continues to be a problem for certain Homeland Americans with “offshore accounts” and all Americans abroad, who continue to “commit personal finance abroad”.
Be careful what you "fix for"! What to do about the unfiled #FBAR https://t.co/sAh01HpWin via @ExpatriationLaw = "small steps = big results"
— Citizenship Lawyer (@ExpatriationLaw) February 5, 2017
The above tweet references a recent post which discussed how to “fix past compliance problems“. The introduction included:
This blog post will hopefully encourage those with U.S. tax issues to consider whether they can deal with minor/unintentional FBAR violations as a “stand alone single problem”. There may be no need to escalate and expand one single problem into a multi-dimensional full blown tax problem that may end up with unintended and unanticipated costly professional fees as well as undue time spent! Read on and learn why. Keeping a calm head is most important, even if it is most difficult
to do in the face of the scary situation of not being in compliance with the U.S. tax and regulatory regime.
Introducing Mr. and Mrs Kentara – When the innocent enter the “Twilight Zone” …
The facts (as reported by Virginia La Torre Jeker in her outstanding analysis) …
In Kentera v. United States, 2017 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 12450 (ED WI 2017), the US District Court dismissed a complaint filed by a husband and wife living in California. The Kentera’s were seeking review of FBAR nonwillful penalties asserted by the IRS. The nonwillful FBAR penalties were assessed pursuant to an audit after the couple withdrew from the IRS’ 2011 Offshore Voluntary Disclosure Initiative ( VDI).
The facts of the case are taken from the plaintiff’s complaint, which can be read here. In summary, they are as follows:
In 1984, after the death of his father, the plaintiff-husband, Milo Kentera, inherited a Swiss foreign bank account at Banque Cantonale de Geneve (Swiss Account). The account was automatically transferred to the plaintiff at the death of his father, so the plaintiff did not take any action in creating this account. Sometime soon afterwards, Milo added his wife’s name to the Swiss Account. The balance in the account was under USD10,000 through 2004 but increased somewhat in 2005-06 going over the USD10,000 FBAR filing threshold. The Swiss Account increased significantly in 2007 upon the sale of the plaintiff’s parents’ Montenegro real property. Some of the sales proceeds were distributed to plaintiff Milo and deposited in the Swiss Account, with the balance paid to Milo’s siblings.
Neither of the plaintiffs were well-versed in US tax matters. The husband was a pharmacist and his wife was a homemaker. Since 1984 when the account was inherited, the plaintiffs always disclosed the Swiss Account to their various accountants on tax organizers and always disclosed the account on their federal income tax returns (Schedule B). However, when the account first exceeded USD 10,000 in 2005, their first accountant failed to prepare or file an FBAR for the plaintiffs. Their second accountant continued this FBAR failure for a number of years despite the fact he clearly knew of the existence of the account from the prior tax returns given to him by the plaintiffs; he also failed to ask if any foreign interest was earned on the account, and consequently,interest income was omitted. In 2010, a third accountant acknowledged the existence of the Swiss Account on the plaintiffs’ return and included interest income from the Account, but she also failed to prepare or file an FBAR. Please note, certainly a tax professional should have been well aware of the FBAR filing rules by the time a 2010 FBAR should have been filed (i.e., June 30 2011). At this time the first IRS OVDI had been in full swing, having been initiated in 2009 and many professional and non-professional articles were written about the problems with FBAR.
Sometime in approximately September 2011, the plaintiffs entered the recently announced IRS 2011 OVDI program. They amended tax returns to include omitted interest income from the Swiss Account and filed completed FBARs for the 6 year period, 2005-2010. In August 2013, the IRS provided Plaintiffs with a Form 906, Closing Agreement assessing a miscellaneous penalty of $90,092. The complaint stated that plaintiffs “withdrew” from the OVDI program the following month. I believe the plaintiffs “opted out” of the program, but am not sure. They were soon the subject of examination by an IRS agent. The IRS agent recommended that plaintiffs be assessed non-willful FBAR penalties under the Bank Secrecy Act, and later proposed assessing the penalties as follows:
1) As to the husband, Milo Kentera: $500 for calendar year 2006; and
$10,000 per year for calendar years 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010, for a
total penalty of $40,500.2) As to the wife, Lois Kentera: $500 for calendar year 2006; and $2,500
per year for calendar years 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010, for a total
penalty of $10,500; andPlaintiffs protested the penalties at IRS conferences, but their protests fell on deaf ears and the IRS sent each of the plaintiffs a letter of an “appeals determination,” upholding the IRS’ proposed FBAR penalties against each of them. The plaintiffs then filed the complaint in District Court. In their complaint, plaintiffs asserted that the IRS incorrectly assessed the FBAR penalties. First, on grounds that the Bank Secrecy Act prohibits the imposition of an FBAR penalty if the violation was “due to reasonable cause.” 31 U.S.C. § 5321(a)(5)(B)(ii)(I). [I note here that the statute requires not only “reasonable cause” but also that “the amount of the transaction or the balance in the account at the time of the transaction was properly reported”.]
My initial thoughts …
The facts suggest that Mr. and Mrs. Kentera were people who believed in compliance with the law. The history of their tax filings suggests a conscious effort to comply with the applicable laws. They also (like everybody) were completely at the mercy of their tax advisers. The “offshore account” (which was not opened by them) was disclosed to their tax preparers. The tax preparers failed to advise Mr. and Mrs Kentera to file their FBAR (a requirement that few in 2011 knew about).
This series of events took place during the “2011 IRS Reign of FBAR Terror“. At this time many lawyers and accountants strongly recommended that people (1) correct their mistakes (the nonwillful ones that were the result of not knowing about Mr. FBAR) and (2) correct those mistakes by agreeing to the OVDP/OVDI penalty program (that is/was analagous to a form of “Civil Forfeiture“).
The evidence strongly suggests that Mr. and Mrs. Kentera were ordinary people, trying to do the “right thing”. They were victimized by advice to enter OVDI and then victimized by the IRS because they entered OVDI. (To get a sense of the context of how people were victimized by trying to do the “right thing”, read Phil Hodgen’s April 5, 2011 post here. There were many other posts written during this period. To see how Green Card holders were victimized by the OVDI program see here and here.)
How could the IRS possibly assess this kind of FBAR penalty?
All “armchair quarterbacks” must remember the context in which individual decisions were made. In 2011, there were NO streamlined compliance procedures. There were no delinquent FBAR submission procedures. There were no Delinquent Information Return Procedures.
That said, there was also NO requirement that people enter OVDI.
Tragically those who tried the hardest, and acted most quickly, to fix their non-compliance problems were the most harshly treated. (In fact, the history of the IRS assault on Americans abroad has shown that that those who did NOT rush to fix their problems fared much better. You may remember the “This is your last best chance to come into compliance” threats directed to those (including Americans abroad)with offshore non-U.S. bank accounts.)
To put it simply: The Kentera’s were victims of their desire to be in compliance with the law. It is regrettable that their law abiding sentiments coincided with the 2011 atmosphere of threats from the IRS and fear mongering from the compliance industry.
Why OVDP is extremely dangerous …
To enter OVDI or OVDP is to enter a program where you interact with the IRS outside the provisions of the Internal Revenue Code. You agree to interact with the IRS outside the framework of the existing laws. OVDP is appropriate for ONLY the very small group of people who may face serious penalties and (criminal) punishment.) OVDP is completely inappropriate for Americans abroad (where all of their assets are foreign and all assets are therefore subject to penalty assessment).
But, once you enter OVDP …
In my humble opinion, Mr. and Mrs. Kentera were subjected to this penalty because they entered OVDI. Because, they entered the program, there must have been a presumption that they somehow “deserved to be there”. As Virgina La Torre Jeker points out:
The point to be taken is the IRS’ apparent lack of sympathy with the taxpayers’ arguments concerning “reasonable cause”. It will be remembered that the IRS has discretion to assess FBAR penalties after taking into account all the facts and circumstances. See the IRS Manual regarding FBAR penalties here. Current IRS procedures state that an examiner may determine that the facts and circumstances of a particular case do not justify asserting a penalty and that instead an examiner should issue a warning letter. The IRS has established penalty mitigation guidelines, but examiners may determine that a penalty is not appropriate or that a lesser (or greater) penalty amount than the guidelines would otherwise provide is appropriate. Examiners are instructed to consider whether compliance objectives would be achievedby issuance of a warning letter; whether the person who committed the violation had been previously issued a warning letter or has been assessed the FBAR penalty; the nature of the violation and the amounts involved; and the cooperation of the taxpayer during the examination.
For more about FBAR penalties and the “FBAR Penalty Mitigation Guidelines”, see the discussion by Michael Deblis here.
What happened was that Mr. and Mrs. Kentera “signed up” to pay an FBAR penalty when there is a good chance that one would never have been imposed in the first place!
Incredible! What should/could have resulted in a “warning letter” resulted in a full blown FBAR penalty (plus the professional fees to attempt to reverse the penalties).
Why did people do it? Why did people enter OVDI in the first place?
The problem of people being “ushered into OVDI/OVDP” by their advisers has been the subject of much discussion. See the following discussion of Jack Townsend’s blog:
"Presumably, the couple entered OVDI on the advice of an attorney and, ultimately, were assessed…" — Stephen Kish https://t.co/XiPlOsz1GB
— Citizenship Lawyer (@ExpatriationLaw) February 4, 2017
"I'm a bit curious why there was omitted income, given that the account was (we are told…" — Michael J. Miller https://t.co/MEq0a4Wz9Y
— Citizenship Lawyer (@ExpatriationLaw) February 5, 2017
I’m a bit curious why there was omitted income, given that the account was (we are told) consistently disclosed on the taxpayers’ return, but mostly I’m curious why they were in OVDI in the first place.Presumably the taxpayers and their counsel could have predicted from the outset that they would need to opt out if they were unwilling to pay the 25% offshore penalty; and I generally see little merit in going into OVDP if you know (or should know) in advance that you’ll be opting out.
Obviously, the compete set of facts (most of which we don’t know) is critically important, so I’m certainly not purporting to reach any conclusions, but I think it’s fair to at least wonder if a non-program disclosure might have been more appropriate in this instance. I do vividly recall that some practitioners were vehemently opposed to the whole notion of a “quiet disclosure,” although I do not recall any coherent reason ever having been advanced for such opposition.
Conclusion: “Look Before You Leap …
To #OVDP or to NOT #OVDP – the greater the attempt to fix past compliance issues, the greater the punishment. https://t.co/HblKpihu0C
— Citizenship Lawyer (@ExpatriationLaw) February 5, 2017
I certainly agree with Virgina La Torre Jeker’s conclusion which states:
The IRS disposition of the case was disappointing, to say the least. One has to ask why, on these facts, the taxpayers joined OVDI in the first place? My guess is that the fear factor was ramped up significantly and they may not have been given full detailed advice by their tax advisor as to all of the possible options, risks with each one and so on. One must also remember that at the time the taxpayers joined OVDI, the Streamlined options did not exist. The case demonstrates that
one must be very careful in taking actions. Get a second or even third opinion.”
Yes, yes and yes!!
If you have FBAR problems …
Get a second or third opinion! Be careful what you fix for!
(For those who want further reading (including the details) see the following court documents:
United States Motion to Dismiss – here.
Memorandum in Support of United States Motion to Dismiss – here.
Mr. & Mrs. Kentera’s Brief in Opposition to United States Motion to Dismiss – here.
United States Reply to Mr. & Mrs. Kentera’s Opposition Brief – here)
John
Richardson
Doesn’t fit the circumstances, does it. eric is presumably not a child and I’m pretty sure you’re not his daddy.
And anyway, eric doesn’t seem to be looking for reassurance. He could penalty-proof himself quite easily by filing amended returns and backfiling FBARs. It would cost, but surely not as much as worst-case FBAR penalties could add up to.
It’s a bit of a mystery (to me) what eric thinks expat US citizens might know about ways to avoid FBAR penalty assessments for unreported foreign accounts, when expat US citizens are themselves actually being reported by their banks and governments to the IRS for having non-foreign accounts.
I’d say eric needs advice and/or reassurance from fellow US-residents who are successfully transferring money to unreported foreign accounts — not from expat US citizens and former US citizens, who for the most part don’t really know a whole lot about how to use the US tax code safely, other than to put their numbers into tax software and hope.
I’d say Eric’s first priority is to determine, if possible, whether his NZ bank ever thought he was a US person and reported him accordingly. If not, it’s clear sailing (with or without permit).
You’d think. 🙂
Socks up, eric. Ring your bank and have a little chat. What could possibly go wrong? 🙂
Bank will not tell me if they reported or not. To report fbar and amend the return will bring uncertainty. Not sure you are talking about quiet disclosure or stream line. both are not secure. If they look into it and think you are not eligible for streamline, it will be very bad, they will still fine you. I don’t know why Plaxy you told ND to move US asset out but tell me to do something only brings uncertainty.
I’m not, eric. I’m completely neutral, when tax evaders and the IRS conflict.
You screw the IRS or the IRS screws you, it’s all one to me. 🙂
By the way: note, Norman Diamond is not a tax evader.
Most expat US citizens and former citizens aren’t.
@plaxy, speechless about you.
Eric, technically you are a tax evader. It doesn’t bother me personally one bit, I’m willing to offer judgement-free advice, but it is the correct description of your predicament. You have your three options, each have pros and cons, it’s up to you to decide. The US has no ability to enforce a civil penalty against you, so you’re basically safe no matter what you do.
Monster-repellent pyjamas, eric!
What more can you ask? 🙂
@plaxy
“eric’s not in a situation. According to the information he’s posted, he signed US tax returns perjuriously but didn’t get caught and is no longer in US jurisdiction.”
None of us are in US juristiction.
““FATCA IGAs created problems, for the US-born. Problems caused by being deprived of the rights to privacy and data protection which their fellow citizens enjoy; and in some countries, problems accessing normal financial services.””
One need not be born in the US, nor a dual citizen with USCship one of the citizenships to suffer the same. One needs only to meet the physical presence test.
“Norman Diamond has IRS problems. The IGA1 countries aren’t responsible for that.”
True, but his treatment by the IRS and US courts is essential background on wha the IRS is and what they think and do.
“Expat USC filers can file “minimal” returns, because the IRS can’t tell whether the information provided is fact or fiction, minimal or complete”
True before FATCA.
“if they avoid committing perjury”
That is precisely what ND did and caused all his troubles.
“No. You’re the one who (unwittingly of course) made it possible for these things to be done to you, by holding US assets and filing US tax returns, and then trying to get justice from a corrupt system.”
Hmm, well. Not liking the idea of people unwittingly getting “caught” by a corrupt system. Also, he was still a USC when this started. Why would he not have US assets? Filing tax returns, I used to too until they demanded info that I could not provide, so putting myself back into what I knew before then I can’t say that that is a fault in the filer. Again, I believe it to be US tax law and the IRS use of it who is to blame.
“Walk away and cut your losses. Peace of mind is more beneficial than fruitless strife with a corrupt and lawless tax agency.”
I begrudgingly agree with this, given what we know now. ND didn’t not yet know when he started his fight. Remember, it didn’t start as a fight for him. He just let the IRS know that it was his employer who was playing tricks and not he. Sensible when had reason not believe the IRS to be what it is.
Japan T:
“putting myself back into what I knew before then I can’t say that that is a fault in the filer. ”
Certainly not.
“Again, I believe it to be US tax law and the IRS use of it who is to blame.”
Undoubtedly. But the good thing is, the IRS can’t do it if the expat US citizen or former citizen is in a position to be able to stop participating and walk away. It’s a question of self-preservation, not fault or blame.
The problem is, with FATCA, fewer and fewer will be able to walk away and it will be harder and harder and more restrictive to those who can.
“But I’m not the one who took US withholding (together with properly taking Canadian withholding) from Canadian sourced interest”
But but but we keep getting told that Canadian banks won’t do this. True, I guess, in a way. They “did”.
“The first lien came in 2009 for tax years 2005 and 2006. I don’t know why the IRS was slow.”
They are slow yet we are to believe that all will be well becuase they have not acted on more recent changes, info changes, etc..
“Yes, but Eric complied with what the IRS and US courts want. Remember, the IRS and courts outrank laws.”
Ha! Though not really funny, just true.
what happened for this one? It happened to ND?
“The first lien came in 2009 for tax years 2005 and 2006. I don’t know why the IRS was slow.”
It might be still early stage of fatca, I haven’t hear any recent cases fatca inflicted penalty. How quickly irs process all the data received? I guess another legislation has to be passed before the bank collect money for US. It may take very long time or might not happen.
Pomerantz case seems beyond 6 years statute of limit? When irs assess his penalty?
‘what happened for this one? It happened to ND?
“The first lien came in 2009 for tax years 2005 and 2006. I don’t know why the IRS was slow.”’
It was not related to FATCA.
The IRS told US Tax Court the reason was because I wrote honest declarations instead of doing (what would be perjury) signing the preprinted jurat.
Several months after that, there were news reports about Monica Hernandez. That would explain why the IRS only enforced the anti-honesty law in years when I had Form 1099 and quietly let me be honest in other years. However, the IRS’s statement to Tax Court still stands. Even though the IRS never told me about Internal Revenue Bulletin 2005-14, I found it accidentally, and it officially penalizes anyone who writes an honest declaration.
By the way the reason for withholding US taxes from Canadian sourced income in 2002 was due to the Qualified Intermediary contract, which also was before FATCA. It also wasn’t involved in the first lien.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnovack/2014/05/02/welcome-to-america-now-give-us-your-money/#25e32f9655a1
“the U.S. crackdown aimed at catching offshore tax cheats has also imposed harsh monetary penalties on some honest folks–for example, U.S. expatriates who didn’t know that they were supposed to file reports with the U.S. Treasury disclosing the Canadian, or French, or German bank accounts that they use to manage their money while living abroad.”
Fortunately, that didn’t happen to you, if I understand correctly. I think you said most of the money in your NZ account was earned in the US? And you haven’t been assessed for any FBAR penalties?
I am not hiding money, I am going back to my country, so have to transfer money back to my country.
What’s the problem?
Correct previous tax and reporting deficiencies, file 2018 return and FBAR, and move the money legally.
no problem, thanks for your advice
please have a look at the below link, irs is not yet enforcing fatca. however they plan to implement data matching by Mar 15,2019 (refer to page 50). compare bank submitted form 8966 with taxpayer’s 8938.
it says 8.7 million accounts reported by banks(page 9), only annually around 300K 8938 forms were filed by taxpayer(page 13). That is huge difference. So many people do not report 8938
https://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2018reports/201830040fr.pdf
Appendix V is the star attraction of that report. Now you know what to put on a US income tax return.
Appendix VI lists some varieties of Form 1099 but omits Form 1099-B. The IRS still needs to protect its embezzlers, most of whom haven’t been caught.
@ND, do not understand.
“Appendix V is the star attraction of that report. Now you know what to put on a US income tax return.”
@eric – the discrepancy between FFI reports and 8938 just illustrates how much garbage there is in the FFI reports. Form 8938 has a $50k threshold for resident taxpayers and $200k for nonresident taxpayers (more on a joint return) – but in many countries FFIs are just reporting ALL accounts – even those with very low (or zero) balances. Plus, when we got data from the ATO, they told us that there were duplicate records (but no idea how many). So we would expect that the number of FFI reports would be orders of magnitude larger than the number of 8938s filed.
Plus, 8938 need not be filed if there is no requirement to file an income tax return. For many who are not in compliance, the FFI reports will not give enough information for the IRS to determine whether their income is sufficient to require filing.