cross-posted from citizenshipsolutions.ca
by John Richardson
Introduction …
Most meetings with Mr. #FBAR take place in "The Twilight Zone" https://t.co/9UJw0GxGIf pic.twitter.com/uqjqYsKKtZ
— Citizenship Lawyer (@ExpatriationLaw) February 5, 2017
This post is one more of a collection of FBAR posts on this blog. The most recent FBAR posts are
here and here.
The “unfiled FBAR” continues to be a problem for certain Homeland Americans with “offshore accounts” and all Americans abroad, who continue to “commit personal finance abroad”.
Be careful what you "fix for"! What to do about the unfiled #FBAR https://t.co/sAh01HpWin via @ExpatriationLaw = "small steps = big results"
— Citizenship Lawyer (@ExpatriationLaw) February 5, 2017
The above tweet references a recent post which discussed how to “fix past compliance problems“. The introduction included:
This blog post will hopefully encourage those with U.S. tax issues to consider whether they can deal with minor/unintentional FBAR violations as a “stand alone single problem”. There may be no need to escalate and expand one single problem into a multi-dimensional full blown tax problem that may end up with unintended and unanticipated costly professional fees as well as undue time spent! Read on and learn why. Keeping a calm head is most important, even if it is most difficult
to do in the face of the scary situation of not being in compliance with the U.S. tax and regulatory regime.
Introducing Mr. and Mrs Kentara – When the innocent enter the “Twilight Zone” …
The facts (as reported by Virginia La Torre Jeker in her outstanding analysis) …
In Kentera v. United States, 2017 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 12450 (ED WI 2017), the US District Court dismissed a complaint filed by a husband and wife living in California. The Kentera’s were seeking review of FBAR nonwillful penalties asserted by the IRS. The nonwillful FBAR penalties were assessed pursuant to an audit after the couple withdrew from the IRS’ 2011 Offshore Voluntary Disclosure Initiative ( VDI).
The facts of the case are taken from the plaintiff’s complaint, which can be read here. In summary, they are as follows:
In 1984, after the death of his father, the plaintiff-husband, Milo Kentera, inherited a Swiss foreign bank account at Banque Cantonale de Geneve (Swiss Account). The account was automatically transferred to the plaintiff at the death of his father, so the plaintiff did not take any action in creating this account. Sometime soon afterwards, Milo added his wife’s name to the Swiss Account. The balance in the account was under USD10,000 through 2004 but increased somewhat in 2005-06 going over the USD10,000 FBAR filing threshold. The Swiss Account increased significantly in 2007 upon the sale of the plaintiff’s parents’ Montenegro real property. Some of the sales proceeds were distributed to plaintiff Milo and deposited in the Swiss Account, with the balance paid to Milo’s siblings.
Neither of the plaintiffs were well-versed in US tax matters. The husband was a pharmacist and his wife was a homemaker. Since 1984 when the account was inherited, the plaintiffs always disclosed the Swiss Account to their various accountants on tax organizers and always disclosed the account on their federal income tax returns (Schedule B). However, when the account first exceeded USD 10,000 in 2005, their first accountant failed to prepare or file an FBAR for the plaintiffs. Their second accountant continued this FBAR failure for a number of years despite the fact he clearly knew of the existence of the account from the prior tax returns given to him by the plaintiffs; he also failed to ask if any foreign interest was earned on the account, and consequently,interest income was omitted. In 2010, a third accountant acknowledged the existence of the Swiss Account on the plaintiffs’ return and included interest income from the Account, but she also failed to prepare or file an FBAR. Please note, certainly a tax professional should have been well aware of the FBAR filing rules by the time a 2010 FBAR should have been filed (i.e., June 30 2011). At this time the first IRS OVDI had been in full swing, having been initiated in 2009 and many professional and non-professional articles were written about the problems with FBAR.
Sometime in approximately September 2011, the plaintiffs entered the recently announced IRS 2011 OVDI program. They amended tax returns to include omitted interest income from the Swiss Account and filed completed FBARs for the 6 year period, 2005-2010. In August 2013, the IRS provided Plaintiffs with a Form 906, Closing Agreement assessing a miscellaneous penalty of $90,092. The complaint stated that plaintiffs “withdrew” from the OVDI program the following month. I believe the plaintiffs “opted out” of the program, but am not sure. They were soon the subject of examination by an IRS agent. The IRS agent recommended that plaintiffs be assessed non-willful FBAR penalties under the Bank Secrecy Act, and later proposed assessing the penalties as follows:
1) As to the husband, Milo Kentera: $500 for calendar year 2006; and
$10,000 per year for calendar years 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010, for a
total penalty of $40,500.2) As to the wife, Lois Kentera: $500 for calendar year 2006; and $2,500
per year for calendar years 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010, for a total
penalty of $10,500; andPlaintiffs protested the penalties at IRS conferences, but their protests fell on deaf ears and the IRS sent each of the plaintiffs a letter of an “appeals determination,” upholding the IRS’ proposed FBAR penalties against each of them. The plaintiffs then filed the complaint in District Court. In their complaint, plaintiffs asserted that the IRS incorrectly assessed the FBAR penalties. First, on grounds that the Bank Secrecy Act prohibits the imposition of an FBAR penalty if the violation was “due to reasonable cause.” 31 U.S.C. § 5321(a)(5)(B)(ii)(I). [I note here that the statute requires not only “reasonable cause” but also that “the amount of the transaction or the balance in the account at the time of the transaction was properly reported”.]
My initial thoughts …
The facts suggest that Mr. and Mrs. Kentera were people who believed in compliance with the law. The history of their tax filings suggests a conscious effort to comply with the applicable laws. They also (like everybody) were completely at the mercy of their tax advisers. The “offshore account” (which was not opened by them) was disclosed to their tax preparers. The tax preparers failed to advise Mr. and Mrs Kentera to file their FBAR (a requirement that few in 2011 knew about).
This series of events took place during the “2011 IRS Reign of FBAR Terror“. At this time many lawyers and accountants strongly recommended that people (1) correct their mistakes (the nonwillful ones that were the result of not knowing about Mr. FBAR) and (2) correct those mistakes by agreeing to the OVDP/OVDI penalty program (that is/was analagous to a form of “Civil Forfeiture“).
The evidence strongly suggests that Mr. and Mrs. Kentera were ordinary people, trying to do the “right thing”. They were victimized by advice to enter OVDI and then victimized by the IRS because they entered OVDI. (To get a sense of the context of how people were victimized by trying to do the “right thing”, read Phil Hodgen’s April 5, 2011 post here. There were many other posts written during this period. To see how Green Card holders were victimized by the OVDI program see here and here.)
How could the IRS possibly assess this kind of FBAR penalty?
All “armchair quarterbacks” must remember the context in which individual decisions were made. In 2011, there were NO streamlined compliance procedures. There were no delinquent FBAR submission procedures. There were no Delinquent Information Return Procedures.
That said, there was also NO requirement that people enter OVDI.
Tragically those who tried the hardest, and acted most quickly, to fix their non-compliance problems were the most harshly treated. (In fact, the history of the IRS assault on Americans abroad has shown that that those who did NOT rush to fix their problems fared much better. You may remember the “This is your last best chance to come into compliance” threats directed to those (including Americans abroad)with offshore non-U.S. bank accounts.)
To put it simply: The Kentera’s were victims of their desire to be in compliance with the law. It is regrettable that their law abiding sentiments coincided with the 2011 atmosphere of threats from the IRS and fear mongering from the compliance industry.
Why OVDP is extremely dangerous …
To enter OVDI or OVDP is to enter a program where you interact with the IRS outside the provisions of the Internal Revenue Code. You agree to interact with the IRS outside the framework of the existing laws. OVDP is appropriate for ONLY the very small group of people who may face serious penalties and (criminal) punishment.) OVDP is completely inappropriate for Americans abroad (where all of their assets are foreign and all assets are therefore subject to penalty assessment).
But, once you enter OVDP …
In my humble opinion, Mr. and Mrs. Kentera were subjected to this penalty because they entered OVDI. Because, they entered the program, there must have been a presumption that they somehow “deserved to be there”. As Virgina La Torre Jeker points out:
The point to be taken is the IRS’ apparent lack of sympathy with the taxpayers’ arguments concerning “reasonable cause”. It will be remembered that the IRS has discretion to assess FBAR penalties after taking into account all the facts and circumstances. See the IRS Manual regarding FBAR penalties here. Current IRS procedures state that an examiner may determine that the facts and circumstances of a particular case do not justify asserting a penalty and that instead an examiner should issue a warning letter. The IRS has established penalty mitigation guidelines, but examiners may determine that a penalty is not appropriate or that a lesser (or greater) penalty amount than the guidelines would otherwise provide is appropriate. Examiners are instructed to consider whether compliance objectives would be achievedby issuance of a warning letter; whether the person who committed the violation had been previously issued a warning letter or has been assessed the FBAR penalty; the nature of the violation and the amounts involved; and the cooperation of the taxpayer during the examination.
For more about FBAR penalties and the “FBAR Penalty Mitigation Guidelines”, see the discussion by Michael Deblis here.
What happened was that Mr. and Mrs. Kentera “signed up” to pay an FBAR penalty when there is a good chance that one would never have been imposed in the first place!
Incredible! What should/could have resulted in a “warning letter” resulted in a full blown FBAR penalty (plus the professional fees to attempt to reverse the penalties).
Why did people do it? Why did people enter OVDI in the first place?
The problem of people being “ushered into OVDI/OVDP” by their advisers has been the subject of much discussion. See the following discussion of Jack Townsend’s blog:
"Presumably, the couple entered OVDI on the advice of an attorney and, ultimately, were assessed…" — Stephen Kish https://t.co/XiPlOsz1GB
— Citizenship Lawyer (@ExpatriationLaw) February 4, 2017
"I'm a bit curious why there was omitted income, given that the account was (we are told…" — Michael J. Miller https://t.co/MEq0a4Wz9Y
— Citizenship Lawyer (@ExpatriationLaw) February 5, 2017
I’m a bit curious why there was omitted income, given that the account was (we are told) consistently disclosed on the taxpayers’ return, but mostly I’m curious why they were in OVDI in the first place.Presumably the taxpayers and their counsel could have predicted from the outset that they would need to opt out if they were unwilling to pay the 25% offshore penalty; and I generally see little merit in going into OVDP if you know (or should know) in advance that you’ll be opting out.
Obviously, the compete set of facts (most of which we don’t know) is critically important, so I’m certainly not purporting to reach any conclusions, but I think it’s fair to at least wonder if a non-program disclosure might have been more appropriate in this instance. I do vividly recall that some practitioners were vehemently opposed to the whole notion of a “quiet disclosure,” although I do not recall any coherent reason ever having been advanced for such opposition.
Conclusion: “Look Before You Leap …
To #OVDP or to NOT #OVDP – the greater the attempt to fix past compliance issues, the greater the punishment. https://t.co/HblKpihu0C
— Citizenship Lawyer (@ExpatriationLaw) February 5, 2017
I certainly agree with Virgina La Torre Jeker’s conclusion which states:
The IRS disposition of the case was disappointing, to say the least. One has to ask why, on these facts, the taxpayers joined OVDI in the first place? My guess is that the fear factor was ramped up significantly and they may not have been given full detailed advice by their tax advisor as to all of the possible options, risks with each one and so on. One must also remember that at the time the taxpayers joined OVDI, the Streamlined options did not exist. The case demonstrates that
one must be very careful in taking actions. Get a second or even third opinion.”
Yes, yes and yes!!
If you have FBAR problems …
Get a second or third opinion! Be careful what you fix for!
(For those who want further reading (including the details) see the following court documents:
United States Motion to Dismiss – here.
Memorandum in Support of United States Motion to Dismiss – here.
Mr. & Mrs. Kentera’s Brief in Opposition to United States Motion to Dismiss – here.
United States Reply to Mr. & Mrs. Kentera’s Opposition Brief – here)
John
Richardson
“One: The (coerced) cooperation is with respect to reporting information, not touching money in those accounts (i.e. stealing US persons money).”
That’s more than enough for me.
“Two: The threat is 30% withholding on certain payments from US sources. Not gross revenues.”
That’s more than enough for many banks to offer the IRS far more than the IGAs call for. If your FI is scared your should be scared. If FIs in your country are moving towards being scared, you shoukd be scared.
If your FIs are standing firm and your nations legislative bodies and courts are standing firm, then perhaps one can truely be free of this.
@Japan T, if you do not have enough money to trigger the reporting threshold, why are you so worried about it? Even bank just reported regardless of the amount of money you have, the privacy of your information should not be a big concern. Then you are all good. I do not believe US will prosecute or extradite you for less than $50K.
“@Japan T, if you do not have enough money to trigger the reporting threshold, why are you so worried about it? Even bank just reported regardless of the amount of money you have, the privacy of your information should not be a big concern. Then you are all good. I do not believe US will prosecute or extradite you for less than $50K.”
WTFO. On
y the rich have to worry about having their IDs stolen?
In case you forgot, There is no reporting threshold in Japan, and I believe elsewhere. ALL US persons, regardless of their balance, are being reported.
what I mean is privacy breach or id stolen happened everywhere not just irs database, if US can not attack you for the penalty, it should not be a big concern
Yes, ID theft can and does happen anywhere without the IRS helping it along. My ID was stolen over 20 years ago in the States. As we speak someone or more than one person is/are driving on DLs with my name on it. They have been arrested under my name and have lawsuits and/or leins against them in my name. As far as I know, the IRS played no part in any of that although the US gov. very well may have. I have had my military service record compromised two times that I know of. This I know. I also have reason to believe that there are housing and business loans taken out in my name.
As I mentioned earlier, ther are many sides to this. One need not be actually lit up by the IRS’s radar to have their life turned upside down. I do not need nor want anyone and everyone to know where I work, where I live, what I buy and from whom, when I am away from home, where my children attend school nor their ages, nor that I even have children. I don’t need them to know my email address nor phone numbers. I don’t want them to know when I paid, how much I’m paid, when I pay my bills and how much my bills are.
The IRS itself is of almost no concern to me. Its the harm by others they expose my family and myself to. I have no money, my spouse, a Japanese national, however, does. We once had a joint account, S.T. which most seem to believe does not exist in Japan, just trying to head off that possibly side track. This account has been reported before I learned of any of this and with difficulty, seperated the account. So my spouse’s financial data has also be turned over to the IRS.
@Japan T
Quite a number things appear to be more than enough for you, but that’s besides the point. I wasn’t discussing what does or doesn’t make you uncomfortable, I was reminding Norman not to invent threats that don’t currently exist – namely the IRS seizing money from non-US accounts.
There might well be multiple instances of my SSN running around the US, committing crimes and piling up debts. Can’t say it bothers in me in the least, since I don’t plan on living there, and it won’t ding my Canadian credit rating.
“Quite a number things appear to be more than enough for you, but that’s besides the point. I wasn’t discussing what does or doesn’t make you uncomfortable, I was reminding Norman not to invent threats that don’t currently exist – namely the IRS seizing money from non-US accounts.”
They don’t have to seize money to get it. They don’t have to get the money to ruin someone’s life.
So, if someone “doxed” you, no problem for you? Just a small problem?
“There might well be multiple instances of my SSN running around the US, committing crimes and piling up debts. Can’t say it bothers in me in the least, since I don’t plan on living there, and it won’t ding my Canadian credit rating.”
That was my exact attitude until I learned of efforts to revoke passports based upon debts owed to the US treasuary. Not an issue for you, but is for many.
“They don’t have to seize money to get it. They don’t have to get the money to ruin someone’s life.”
I don’t disagree with either of those statements. The IRS can scare people into compliance, or banks can shut off access to accounts, or (hypothetically at this point) US expats could even lose passports and residence permits. All of which are bad things.
But FFS can one not simply make a true statement – “the IRS cannot seize money directly from non-US accounts” – to keep things reality-based after one of Norman’s interventions, without you then jumping in with a “yes but…” list of every current and future horror? You might as well add “and at the end of the day we all grow old and lose control of our bowels and eventually die” to everything you write.
I have no idea what the doxing reference means. Normally someone is doxed when they are a specific target.
“I have no idea what the doxing reference means. Normally someone is doxed when they are a specific target.”, is in reference to “Quite a number things appear to be more than enough for you”.
The amount of info my bank are sending to the IRS is the same as being doxed. I may not be a specific target for any specific group, but the info is out there for the bad element to play with.
If a victim gets victimized, there might not be a difference between the method by which it occurred. Maybe someone was randomly trying to attack 10,000 possible targets, succeeded in 20 of the cases, and you were one of the 20. Or maybe someone specifically targeted you because of something you posted. In either case your passport could be revoked because of some debt that you didn’t know about.
“If a victim gets victimized, there might not be a difference between the method by which it occurred. Maybe someone was randomly trying to attack 10,000 possible targets, succeeded in 20 of the cases, and you were one of the 20. Or maybe someone specifically targeted you because of something you posted. In either case your passport could be revoked because of some debt that you didn’t know about.”
Thank you. exactly.
Doxing is what’s happens when some sad alt-right wanker you annoyed on reddit posts your address and phone number so that other sad alt-right wankers can send you mean texts and call the SWAT team to your house. Potentially quite unpleasant.
ID theft and fraud, whether resulting from a data breach or specific targetting, is a different matter. Also potentially quite unpleasant.
“If you passed the substantial presence test, then left the United States permanently during the calendar year, you cease to be a U.S. resident on your residency termination date, which is generally December 31. However, if your tax home was in a foreign country and you had a closer connection to that foreign country after your departure from the United States, your residency termination date can be the last day during the calendar year that you were physically present in the United States.
A statement must be filed with your tax return to establish your residency termination date, if earlier than December 31. You must sign and date this statement and include a declaration that it is made under penalties of perjury. ”
What is that statement? any specific form to fill out? thanks
“Doxing is what’s happens when some sad alt-right wanker you annoyed on reddit posts your address and phone number so that other sad alt-right wankers can send you mean texts and call the SWAT team to your house. Potentially quite unpleasant.”
Those happen the other direction too. The fact that you choose only the one and not reffer to it as it is is telling.
Doxing is when people who disagree with you publish your personal information so that others can harrass you. Having all one’s info available to everyone and anyone opens one up to all kinds of nastiness.
If doxing is bad,so is having all one’s data sent to an agency with a trach record of not securing the data.
Fine. Some sad alt-left wanker then. Feel better?
“What is that statement? any specific form to fill out? thanks”
“Dear IRS
Please send me a refund of ‘$$$’ without mentioning any FBAR penalties.
Love,
eric”
@nononymous
Your partisanship blinds you. Your statement indicates that not only are you aware of lefties doxing righties, it also indicates that you can not conceive that such could happen. “Doxing IS (emphasis added) what’s happens when some sad alt-right wanker….”.
Doxing is in no way a one street.
Or perhaps, having never watched Fax News and relying on reports, I have it wrong. I guess Tucker Carlson could be a leftie and DC Antifa sad alt-right wanker.
You are blinded by your partisanship and it causes you to miss my point. Regardless of the machinery, the end result of having been doxed and having all informtion on you in one nonsecured location is the same, your privacy and the ptotection it affords you is gone.
@eric
“What is that statement? any specific form to fill out? thanks”
The last time I did a tax return I had a simliar requirement, though I was to write an”essay” explaing how I converted my wages earned in Japanese yen to dollars. That was years ago but at that time, if there was a form for it, I could not find it. I wrote it out by hand on paper.
@plaxy, man, you funny.
@Japan T, so the last return you did a dual return, paper return? If you did dual return, you do not have to report your Japanese income to irs, because after you move out of US, you are non resident, no need to report worldwide income.
“If you did dual return, you do not have to report your [non-US] income to irs, because after you move out of US, you are non resident, no need to report worldwide income.”
True for you[*], not true for a US citizen.
* though it doesn’t solve the problem of how to claim a refund for the period when you were indeed US-resident and earning US income, without mentioning the existence of that unreported foreign account
An expat US citizen is always treated as US-tax-resident by the IRS. If they choose to file a US tax return, they must report worldwide income, and file FBARs for all non-US bank accounts, or commit perjury.
So most don’t file US tax returns, and don’t report their already-taxed non-US income for additional US taxing, and don’t file FBARs to report their local accounts as “foreign” accounts.
And that’s fine, because they don’t in fact owe US tax, they don’t in fact have any cross-border accounts, and they haven’t committed perjury or tax evasion.