Cross-posting from ADCS-ADSC.ca blog congratulations to constitutional lawyer, Joseph Arvay, and his team on today’s unanimous Canadian Supreme Court decision, with the disclaimer as rightly suggested…
This post and the Canadian Supreme Court unanimous ruling is being cited solely to show the legal skills of Canadian constitutional lawyer, Joseph Arvay, and his team, not to discuss our agreement or disagreement with the ruling itself.
Congratulations to @ADCSovereignty lawyer Joe Arvay – SCC allows doctor assisted suicide
Joseph Arvay and team will use their same skills in working to uphold the rights of approximately one million Canadians, their spouses, their children, their business partners who presently face national origin discrimination (US-defined US citizenship / personhood) after the signing and implementation by Omnibus Bill C-31, of an intergovernmental agreement to allow US FATCA law to override Canadian laws and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
ooops….my bad, should have read more carefully.
However, I still don’t see how anyone was bashing Veritas’ ‘conservative’ opinion per say when it comes to the assisted suicide issue, even if some expressed their opposing views.
Rather they were trying to explain to her/him that that the Canadian FATCA IGA is a separate and distinct case from the one that Joe Arvay just won, and that to refuse to support the FATCA case simply because our lawyer won a case that she/he does not agree with, is well….kind of sad really.
I have expressed many times here that I am a Conservative voter. I will go even further, and disclose that I have also been a Reform voter. My most important point is that I will not give up on this fight.
No thinking person, IMHO, agrees with every political action, or platform point, from ANY political party. If they do, IMO, they are brainwashed. Just because we all come together on THIS (US person) issue doesn’t mean we should all agree on all other issues.
I will not be scared off by Con bashing. People disagree on politics all the time.
I will also note that Joe Arvay for many years has been former BC Social Credit Premier Bill Vander Zalm’s lawyer. While it is true that Social Credit no longer exists as a political party(to some degree it became Reform/Alliance) I think just about anyone admit that in its day Social Credit was a VERY Conservative Party and Bill Vander Zalm’s was probably one of the most Conservative political figures in the last 50 years of Canadian politics.
Note: I encouraged the leadership of ADCS to reach to Bill Vander Zalm to see if he was interested in the anti FATCA cause. I never got a clear response back but my sense was that Vander Zalm was considered too divisive.
Great comment. Can’t say I feel a lot of love for Vander Zalm for being instrumental in getting GST repealed in BC, but if he helped the cause, why not? Those who remember him will associate his government with corruption, but that’s how they all leave BC politics in the end anyway.
I haven’t been “hurt” by any of this, nor do I propose censorship on this site by any means. Vent your steam… (@USX…I apologize if anyone else has been nicked on my account.)
However, just being Machiavellian, or Utilitarian, (or any other kind of “-ian” that works), I am saying that if you want the $ to come in, choose your words carefully. SoCon expats have been hurt by the IGA and FATCA just as much as the ABCers; why should they put their money into the pot when they are being labelled with hurtful names?
And just for the record, I’m not exactly new here. I joined when the IGA became effective…I have commented very briefly more than once, and have contributed in each cycle, small fry though I am.
@Veritas Thanks for explaining the subtleties and highlighting an inclusive ‘broad tent’: ‘the ends justify the means.
“I have noticed on IBS quite a lots of “cons” bashing.”
I voted conservative (bringing Harper to power in 2008). I have no problems with bashing him. In fact, the entire Canadian Conservative caucus stood united in their viewpoint of Canadian citizens of American descent being targeted by FATCA and voted to bring in an IGA selling us out. Why in the hell shouldn’t we bash the living crap out of them? They have absolutely no integrity; they are a caucus of traitors who should be hung from the nearest lamp-post.
And I’d do the same for any damned political party that threw us under the bus like that, whether Liberal, NDP or Libertarian. Out of all the political parties, the Green Party has been the only one who has remained consistently vocal about the FATCA situation. Even the NDP has quietly gone on to other means.
This is a WAR. So I suggest you buckle your big boy pants and dig in for a long fight.
I won’t apologize for being “non-diplomatic”. After the bullshit that has gone on with FATCA, my sense of humor has gone down the drain and I have little time for waverers. This is a fight to the death as far as I’m concerned, because if my family gets hit with FATCA (thanks to my wife); we’re bankrupt. I also have a disabled son who is tied by the citizenship-string that is unable to be cut. That’s how come I’m angry and that’s why I have little patience for those who would waver under the gun like this. And I will fight until my last dying breath for the likes of my son (and all those who have disabled children who are stuck under this legislation tied to a citizenship they cannot relinquish or renounce) to make sure this legislation is killed and those responsible for this mess out of office.
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I love the Animal’s spunk!
You made the same miss-read that I did. Veritas is referring to “con bashing” not “Con bashing”.
I’m with you on all counts. The cost of any of this is a barrier to so many families! And, to think that your disabled son can NEVER be granted a renunciation or relinquishment of US-defined US citizenship for ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY paid to any US compliance industry professional and that you cannot act on your son’s behalf is morally and in every other way obscene. The ONLY way that such person as your son will ever be free is for the US tax law to change to residence-based as the rest of the world. That the US citizenship-based taxation law ENTRAPS anyone and especially the most vulnerable and their families into consequences of the CBT morass, on top of all else these families daily deal with, and that the United States of America does nothing to change that consequence of ENTRAPMENT gives new meaning to the word OBSCENE. To me, to you — this is just another type of terrorism (and there is no indication of any kind of relief indicated for our *accidental duals at birth*, those with some definition of *mental incapacity*).
Our own country, Canada, and its Conservative government (as well as the other Parties who will not stand up and state their policy about what they will do about FATCA law in Canada) is no better as they say *JUST RENOUNCE* —
WhiteKat, it’s JC’s comment: Here’s the rest of it… “Ok, it is the Conservative government who got the Canadian FATCA IGA through with minimal debate, due diligence, and in a sneaky hidden way. Yet there is not example of other major governments of the world putting up more resistance – all major governments approved IGA’s whether they were conservative, liberal, dictatorial, or communistic.”
Ultimately it was the Conservative government who elected to lay down and show their belly to the United States. And as a conservative voter who has been betrayed by this spineless government, I have no compunctions in blasting them out of office…preferably on the end of a pitchfork and towards a hanging noose.