[We now have a NEW POST taking us up to February 1, 2015. This post will be retired from service.]
THE AUTUMN 2014 UPDATE
Dear Donors,
Together, we reached our goal of $100,000 to pay the November 1 legal bill 11 days ahead of schedule!
Thank you Canadian donors from coast to coast and our friends from around the world for your generosity, support and determination — and especially for not being afraid.
The name of our non-profit corporation is the “Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty.”
We were very deliberate in including in our name the word “sovereignty”, which forms a cornerstone of our Claims against the Government of Canada.
Canada and dozens of other countries throughout the world gave into a bully because their “leaders” were afraid of harm caused by a trading “partner” — and they gave their sovereignties away.
Help us convince by example the Leaders and Governments of all countries worldwide that they should return their sovereignties back to their Peoples.
Please continue to support our lawsuit.
“Alone we can do so little. Together we can do so much.” (Helen Keller)
— Plaintiffs Ginny and Gwen, and the ADCS-ADSC team
Chers donateurs,
Ensemble, nous avons atteint notre but d’amasser 100 000 $ pour payer notre facture légale du 1er novembre 11 jours d’avance !
Un gros merci à vous, donateurs canadiens, et à nos amis de tous les coins du monde pour votre grande générosité, soutien et détermination. Et surtout pour votre courage.
Le nom de notre organisme sans but lucratif est « l’Alliance pour la défense de la souveraineté canadienne ».
Nous avons choisi délibérément le mot « souveraineté » puisqu’il constitue la base fondamentale de nos revendications envers le gouvernement du Canada.
Le Canada et des dizaines d’autres pays se sont pliés devant l’intimidation des États-Unis parce que leurs « leaders » ont eu peur des menaces de notre « partenaire » commercial. Ils ont donc vendu leur souveraineté à rabais.
Aidez-nous à convaincre les dirigeants et les gouvernements de tous ces pays qu’ils se doivent de remettre leur souveraineté à leurs peuples.
S’il vous plaît, continuez à soutenir notre cause.
« Seuls, nous pouvons faire si peu. Ensemble, nous pouvons faire beaucoup. » (Helen Keller)
— Ginny, Gwen et toute l’équipe de l’ADCS-ADSC
DONATE to www.adcs-adsc.ca (ADSC en français).
I neglected to give the link to CCF. Here it is:
http://theccf.ca/
Hi Andrew!
Thanks for this suggestion. I just called Leadnow but no response. In particular I would like to know whether there would be a financial cost for our involvement with the organization. We want to keep costs as close to zero as possible so that we can use every penny from the donations for litigation.
Stephen
Another suggestion: create a Wikipedia article on ACDS. Keep it neutral. And then link from the Wikipedia article on FATCA.
@NorthernShrike – do you know how to do this? I have never had any luck trying to register and become an author at Wikipedia
I have edited, but if I ever created an article from scratch, it was a long time ago. I am sure I could figure it out.
Is there anyone out there who has done it and is prepared to lend a hand?
A important thing to look at is will the USA apply sanctions for Chinese Banks if they do not sign up.
Lynne or someone
How much money has been pledged?
30 or 40 people who blog all the time does not tell me, if there is enough ground swell to overcome the law?
@ALL…Please keep telling people about the legal challenge. We need to keep donations coming in and we need them from ALL Canadians, AND our International friends, as well. We cannot do this with just our own base. Please remember that we are doing this on a steady, ongoing and long-term basis. This is not like our first round, where we needed to get a small amount in only a week or two. This is a huge amount over months. Reminder: this is a marathon, not a sprint and we need to build a groundswell throughout all of Canada and the world.
One silver lining: it has returned urgent moral outrage to Canadian politics.
Until I heard Keddy and the other Conservative and Department of Finance sycophants bleating in the Finance Committee, all I felt about most of our politicians was fatigued indifferent contempt.
Keddy’s remarks were loathsome.
The Harper conservatives have succeeded in Americanizing our political outlook, turning former supporters-by-default into strident, motivated, activist single issue opponents.
Now fear and loathing and anger will be a part of our political vocabulary. Are they so blind as to not see where this would lead. I hope FATCA is THE ISSUE that brings the Harper Conservatives down. It has the potential to unite the Opposition Parties; we must encourage them hold common ground and mutually support the Charter Challenge as well.
@GeorgeIII,
We won’t be giving updates on the amount of monies coming in to the fund because we don’t want the opposition (the Government of Canada), having unlimited taxpayer dollars on its side, to have this information. We will make an announcement and press release once we have sufficient monies to sign the papers retaining the lawyer.
— As GwEvil mentions, we need a huge amount over a long time. Brockers need to communicate our message to that Silent Majority out there that seems to be in hiding. George, as you say, it is a lot to ask that 30-40 Brockers defend the interests of one million U.S. people (as well as ALL Canadians) in Canada.
–Suggest you all begin to get ready drafts of letters, emails, to newspapers, online whatevers which you will send out Monday evening. Assume that Lynne is correct and that the IGA bill will be passed by Parliament Monday June 9 (see below link). You will mention the bad bill just passed in your letters.
You all live in communities.
Each one of you should send a letter Monday evening with your personal story and what you are all about to your small community newspaper. If you don’t provide your real name in the letter, explain your reason to the letters editor. Mention the website. You might have to provide a real name, phone number and address, but with the stated condition that this personal information not be published.
http://maplesandbox.ca/2014/brreaking-news-fatca-iga-vote-on-c31-omnibus-bill-expected-in-house-of-commons-monday-june-9-9/
Stephen
Can you also confirm with the Lawyers that Canada will not extradite people who fail to file USA income taxes?
Were you Schubert1975?
Wondering,
I agree with all you say — but where, oh where, is the media on this?
This why I believe extradition if off the table from extradition act
“Extradition Hearing
Marginal note:Extradition hearing
24. (1) The judge shall, on receipt of an authority to proceed from the Attorney General, hold an extradition hearing.
Marginal note:Application of Part XVIII of the Criminal Code
(2) For the purposes of the hearing, the judge has, subject to this Act, the powers of a justice under Part XVIII of the Criminal Code, with any modifications that the circumstances require.
Marginal note:Competence
25. For the purposes of the Constitution Act, 1982, a judge has, with respect to the functions that the judge is required to perform in applying this Act, the same competence that that judge possesses by virtue of being a superior court judge.”
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/E-23.01/page-8.html#h-15
From Supreme Court of Canada Harden Case
“A foreign State cannot escape the application of the rule that in no circumstances will the courts directly or indirectly enforce the revenue laws of another country, which is one of public policy, by taking a judgment in its own courts and bringing suit here on that judgment. The claim asserted remains a claim for taxes. It has not, in our courts, merged in the judgment; enforcement of the judgment would be enforcement of the tax claim.”
http://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/7322/index.do.c
A extradition Judge will be bond by these rules.
@George: Extradition you ask? That’s an expensive way to get money. The Canadian banks will let the IRS take whatever they need or figure they need from our accounts including penalties. How easy is that? Slap on the 30% withholding and just watch the big 5 bend. I’ve known people here in Canada who owed taxes to the Canadian govt. and the CRA helped themselves to the bank account, however not without lots of warning letters.
They may not “extradite” someone in real life, however, they may “extradite” funds from the banks of non filers. This may happen under another “threat” and we know how the banks and government will handle that. Our monies are not safe in the banks at all period. For most, I’d think the best is to keep little in the bank for bills etc. only. The real money people have saved, needs to be unknown to the untrustworthy people’s of the world. This Charter challenge is of utmost importance to this country. I do honestly feel this is a turning point in our relationship with the US government. Canada might be changed forever with this. The Media needs to get involved and dam fast. These US demands need to be front page news. Every single person I have educated on this asks the same question “why is this not public” My best answer is simple. the Canadian government knows that is will sour relationships with the USA and they don’t want that. The US government needs to be taught a lesson from the world. They treated Canada like a pile of garbage in their desparity for money, who knows what they’ll do next. Please, GET INVOLVED This is YOUR country ran by dictators who have every law in their favor to do anything they want with NO way you can stop them! When they were shown, beyond any doubt, they will hurt Canadians with this IGA, people like Keddy, Berg, Saxton, Allen etc. were set up to “just do it” and show no “reasonable” thinking. Just act stupid and dis-agree with anything they say so we can get the IGA rammed through into law. Just for the record, NO replies were given at all to my letters dated from Nov 23 2013 and two more. Even the office of Stephen Harper wouldn’t answer. This is normal? Harper and the rest of them have treated me like garbage! Please, get involved and lets protect our Canadians. Without them, and people like us, we will lose Canada!
Native Canadian
The banks have tried that and failed.
One must sympathize with the position of the bank but that position is the result of its election to carry on business in more than one country and that cannot influence the application of Canadian law.
http://uniset.ca/other/cs6/68OR2d379.html
read this as well.
http://isaacbrocksociety.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/3200/
The 30% withholding on USA assets does not exists,
If you are not Canadian the tax debt occurred the CRA may collect,
The Prime Minister met today with the newly elected president of Ukraine. All was friendly and cordial. But I wondered: What if the new Ukrainian leader said “Mr. Prime Minister, our country is in deep financial trouble. Therefore we would like your country to send us the names, addresses, and financial records of the one million Canadians of Ukrainian descent living in Canada. We need to tax them…they need to pay their fair share of our burden and we demand to know their financial holdings to the last dime. You have done this for the Americans and we expect no less. If there is non-compliance we will consider all Ukrainian persons in Canada to be criminals (after, of course we scare the hell out of them and threaten them with bankruptcy).”
If this scenario ever came to pass the Prairie Provinces would ignite with Ukrainian Canadian rage! And rightly so. The media would be all over it. But the American diaspora in Canada (and renounced, relinquished, and accidental Americans) are completely invisible. In the cultural and ethnic mosaic which is Canada let’s face it, we don’t count! All those snide remarks about Americans that we’ve put up with all our lives (and often rebutted) must have been heartfelt. How else can we explain the absolute silence on this issue in the media and among our Canadian neighbours?
@GeorgeIII
Yes, the quasi-Canadian banks are less Canadian than we are, and unlike us reside in the US, yet are offered more protections by our government than we are. It’s perverse.
@ bubblebustin
Thank you for putting out all those tweets with the ADCS link today. Nice to see one determined chick overwhelming the condors’ contributions for awhile at #fatca. Did you get any tweet-backs?
I have contacted the University of Saskatchewan Faculty Association, asking that they pass along information about ADCA. Here is the response, in part, from my contact:
“They were sympathetic and are intending to let the members know. Apart from that they are to inform the retirees Association.”
Thanks for noticing, Em. So far I’ve had 5 retweets, three return tweets and one follower from the MP’s I tweeted with my message “CDN government will face legal challenge unless #FATCA IGA’s removed from BillC31 http://t.co/bOk5OkHfQP Vote NO to FATCA!”
What a roller-coaster day of big news. We hear of the death of dear friend of Brock, Don (Arrow) Whiteley: we await the possible passage of American FATCA law into Canadian F’dUP Law; we learn banks in Mexico are beginning to expel customers with any hint of USness; and yet thankfully our Lynne (Blaze) Swanson came out with another great piece in Tax-News. On the little news home front my husband mailed his cheque to the ADCS fund this morning but he also picked this day to do his IRS tax-slave forms (sheer torment and e-filing FinCEN 114 lies ahead — more torment to come).
The views of the ADCS video are trickling down to very few per day now but I truly hope people are still contributing whatever they can to the fund and seeking out others who might be able to help too. We know this litigation will succeed in the Supreme Court of Canada (when it gets there) but we need to make sure it gets going towards that day.
How about an add in a newspaper with the link? Don’t people read newspapers anymore?
Watching the House of Commons live right now, it’s encouraging to see the opposition members supporting Murray Rankin’s amendments to Bill C-31 but depressing to see the Conservatives betray Canadian citizens and even cheer as they defeat the amendments. The full (ironically named) Economic Action Plan 2014 is now in the process of being passed by the House, making the Senate and the Charter challenge the last defences against FATCA in Canada.
I heard from another friend today who is planning to contribute to the challenge fund, but I haven’t received responses yet from the York University Faculty Association, the York retirees, or the Canadian Association of University Teachers about publicizing the challenge.
I’m going to take a vacation soon for a couple of weeks — France is our choice for spending our vacation money, certainly not the US, and not even Canada this year.
I, too, will sadly miss Don Whitely and his important contributions in the press on all this.
Courage, friends, and carry on.
@ALL,
As soon as the IGA bill is passed (today?), ADCS-ADSC will post a press release on Brock and Sandbox.
Please send this press release to every local newspaper, radio station, TV station, FB, other organizations you can find –large and small. Send nationally (Canada) and internationally.
We need to communicate the problem and the solution to the people who do not know about us.