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UPDATE December 23, 2017: Please see the following post for the latest information: http://isaacbrocksociety.ca/2017/12/15/un-human-rights-complaint-quadruples-its-signatures/
UPDATE November 28, 2017:
Also, see MuzzledNoMore’s updated post, United Nations Human Rights Complaint: Seeking Advice and Additional Signatures
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UPDATE November 23, 2017:
UN Complaint Final July 29 2014 – updated links November 23 2017
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UPDATE JANUARY 10, 2017:
From MuzzledNoMore:
Just letting everybody know that we’re still waiting to hear from the UN about the status of our Complaint. With any luck we’ll have the matter taken care of within the next few months by the new Republican administration in Washington. Who knows? Maybe the UN is watching and waiting to see what happens as well. In any regard, the UN has informed us that it can take up to three years for a Complaint to reach the stage at which it will be considered or rejected.
If a “domestic” solution is possible, there will be no need for the UN to address the issue. When we filed the Complaint nearly two and a half years ago we could never have believed that repealing FATCA and switching to residence-based taxation would have made it to the 2016 Republican Party Platform. Now it remains to be seen if the party will follow through with its promises.
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UPDATE MAY 21, 2015:
Today we received official confirmation from the United Nations Human Rights Council that our Complaint has been received and is in the queue pending approval (or not) for admittance into one of the Working Groups. The next session of the Working Group on Communications is scheduled from 17 to 21 August 2015. Further information will be shared with us after that date.
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UPDATE NOVEMBER 6, 2014:
From MuzzledNoMore:
We have finally received confirmation that our Human Rights Complaint against the United States has been received by the United Nations. This is great news! But let’s not pop champagne corks just yet. There is no indication that the Complaint has been read or considered for acceptance into the complaints process in any way. That is all yet to come. But we have made a huge step forward! That deserves a few cheers all round … even without the bubbly!
UPDATE OCTOBER 27, 2014:
Permission has been given a university researcher to access to our UN Human Rights Complaint to analyze ethical assumptions on FATCA. That access will be used for academic purposes, content not to be released (as the UN has not yet acknowledged receipt of this UN Human Rights Complaint).
We view as a significant step that this document will be studied for moral dimensions and ethics. We continue to anticipate the time we will be able to publicly release contents of the Complaint, likely AFTER the next scheduled meeting to review such complaints, sometime in April 2015.
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UPDATE SEPTEMBER 10, 2014:
“JC” commented, and he’s right:
Whenever that text for the human rights complaint comes out that, I believe, will be a big help at raising awareness.
The text of the Human Rights Complaint will be published when we know the UN has received and considered it. There has been no confirmation that our submission was considered for the meeting in August (…our submission was sent just before the August meeting so, just by number of other submissions received before ours, our Human Rights Complaint may not have been considered in the time allotted). It looks like the next UN meeting to consider Human Rights Complaints is scheduled for April of 2015 — that Committee meets twice a year.
In the meantime, our fundraising must be pinned to its stand-alone legal claim and importance which absolutely addresses our human rights issues.
Donate Now: http://adcs-adsc.ca/
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August 7, 2014 UPDATE:
The Human Rights Complaint has been submitted. Thank you to those who worked on the document and made this happen. A very special thank you to all who came forward to put your names on this important document. We had a total of 41 signers, representing the countries of Canada, Germany, Japan, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, Estonia, Switzerland and Belgium.
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August 5, 2014 UPDATE:
Note: there is a confidentiality clause in the document that your name / nationality / country be kept confidential. My name and address will be the only one that might not be confidential. I wanted to share with you two notes waiting for me this morning:
Hi Carol,
I am very disappointed that more people did not come forward and sign this document, I do not understand why people are afraid to speak up for what they believe. People are so afraid of the bully acts of the USA, We must stand together, I am asking all people that the US government deem US citizens to step forward and stand up against the US and the Harper government for allowing FATCA into the Canadian banking system.
I am not on facebook or twitter. I give you permission to post this.
Disappointed
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Hi Carol,
I am surprised that so few people have signed. This makes me uneasy. People must be frightened. Do you expect repercussions against the signers? At the moment I don’t have the strength to deal with any more troubles. Would you please put a hold on my name until I can evaluate your assessment of possible repercussions.
Thank you,
YYYY
I answered YYYY:
Absolutely. I can take your name off the list of signers if you are not comfortable with that — you must be OK with your decision. We will probably be sending the Complaint on Thursday, August 7th .
No, we don’t expect any repercussions against any of the signers. We will ask for confidentiality in one of the clauses.
As with everything else of this with this (persons on blogs, getting together for protest, etc.), people are afraid to step forward. The US weapon toward its people always is FEAR. That is what we see here. That is our biggest obstacle and what may defeat us in the end.
Dr. Stephen Kish, Chair of the Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty signs his name on behalf of the millions of *US Persons* Abroad who are afraid to sign.
Thanks, YYYY.
FEAR: the most effective tool the USA has at its disposal is at work in all we see regarding US Persons Abroad coming forward in unison to fight the good fight. If anything defeats us, it will be our FEAR.
As you all know, I fear too for my son’s name to be out there as it is my duty as a parent to protect his best interests. Because of my own fear, I went through all the complex back US tax filings through use of professionals in the US compliance industry. That was my choice as I could absolutely not do it myself and I so wanted this behind me, to stop the leak of my hard-earned retirement funds to be passed to the US IRS. I’m still in this game. I replied to a commenter at Isaac Brock yesterday and Stephen Kish picked part of what I said to update the ADCS-ADSC Charter Challenge post yesterday:
UPDATE August 5, 2014 (http://isaacbrocksociety.ca/2014/06/01/its-time/)
Carol, an ADCS-ADSC Board Director, explains why she donated to this lawsuit:
The purpose of the lawsuit, to me, is to stop the obscene injustice of all of this, regain rights waived by the Canadian government’s implementation of the US FATCA IGA, thereby putting the financial institutions before individuals and families who are being criminalized!
I’m in for that just as I’m on this blog, hoping people learn from all of the stupid mistakes I made along the way — I don’t want others to make those same mistakes.
It’s about people getting their lives back, along with their dignity and their mental and physical health and to stop the the handing over to the US a good portion of what they’ve saved for their retirements.
It is about wanting Canada to remain a sovereign country, not taken over by the USA. It’s about what I think is right and not wanting to silently stand by and let this happen. It’s because I believe in free speech and don’t want to be shamed into not speaking out, at this point especially for other families who have a family member with some developmental disability or some other ‘mental incapacity’.
My update for now and my regards to all,
August 2, 2014 UPDATE:
Thank you very much for everyone who has corresponded to me at calgaryfouroneone@gmail.com to request the password and give permission for your signatures to be added. Your supportive emails are wonderful.
He is what we have for signers to the Human Rights Document:
18 – Canada
2 – UK
1 – Australia
1 – Belgium (US/Dutch Citizen)
1 – Denmark
1 – Germany
1 – Japan
1 – Switzerland
Note that one of the Canadian signers is Dr. Stephen Kish (Canadian, US)–signing personally, and on behalf of the “Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty” Board of Directors, and the millions of U.S. persons living abroad who are too frightened to sign this document.
Also waiting to hear back from 4 in Canada (one from Quebec) and one from New Zealand.
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July 30, 2014 UPDATE:
Here is the FINAL Human Rights Complaint, available to those that are considering signing. To access the password for this document, contact and request from calgaryfouroneone@gmail.com.
Each person sending a request will receive a copy from calgary411 “in Confidence” with the CLEAR understanding that it is NOT to be published. For anyone who wants to have another person read/sign the document, that other person also needs to obtain it through the Isaac Brock Society or Maple Sandbox channels. Signatures will only be accepted from those who have gotten the document through calgary411. This stipulation is necessary to keep some lid on the proliferation of this information.
We will announce when we know the timing for the agency committee looking at this document for review. We will update on this post any feedback from the agency as it is received.
This document is the collaboration of contributors to both blogs and took over a month to write, discuss and edit in consensus with a group of 15 who have vetted and approved it in its entirety. It stands as presented to them. Bloggers can have their say but there will be no further changes to the document. It is what the agency says that matters.
Sign if you are in agreement and can do so by providing to calgaryfouroneone@gmail.com your name and your nationality and/or country of residence. The Human Rights Complaint will be submitted electronically. Submitters’ names and nationalities will be typed onto the lines provided on page 1. No physical signature is required.
If you are not comfortable with the document, you do not have to sign.
TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
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Two dedicated individuals who participate at both the Isaac Brock Society and the Maple Sandbox blogs have prepared a comprehensive Human Rights Complaint that will be submitted on behalf of all *US Persons Abroad* the world over. Others offered suggestions on how that information should best be presented in the constraint of number of pages allowed for the Complaint. We appreciate the legal eye and suggestions for going forward with this Complaint from Professor Allison Christians.
The document now complete, I have been asked to post an announcement on their behalf. Unfortunately, because of their personal situations, they cannot lend their names to the document and this will be the end of Phase I, produced for all of us, with their great care.
I so appreciate the incredible work that has gone into this on behalf of all of us. Here is what they say:
A group of writers from the Isaac Brock Society and Maple Sandbox blogs has prepared a document that challenges citizenship-based taxation (CBT) as a violation of internationally recognized human rights. This document will be submitted as a formal complaint to a major international human rights organization within the next ten days.
Any readers who would like to support this effort by “co-signing” (having their names added to the list of those filing the complaint) should so indicate by sending an email to: calgaryfouroneone@gmail.com.
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The Canadian writers of the complaint hope to make this a truly international effort. Bloggers from all over the world are welcome to lend their names to this historic document. Signers do not have to be US Persons.****************
Signers should feel comfortable with using their own names (pseudonyms are unacceptable in this instance) and should provide their nationality and/or country of residence as well.
@Calgary411: As I understand it, the researcher contacted you. Is the researcher agreeable to allowing his or her name, position and university to be shared? If not, is there a reason for it being confidential?
@Calgary411
Thanks for the clarification. Yes, glad it’s alive and of interest to others. We’ll all be interested in this researcher’s comments.
I’ll wait for further advice on what to do. I am the conduit to the Human Rights Complaint because my name is out there and I was OK to correspond with persons on the matter. I am not, though, the person responsible for this project.
I’m sorry I did not sign the human rights complaint. I was not aware of it…don’t know how I missed it. That may be the problem for others as well. There is so much worry and south information to sift through, things fall through the cracks. Sorry!
We have finally received confirmation that our Human Rights Complaint against the United States has been received by the United Nations. This is great news! But let’s not pop champagne corks just yet. There is no indication that the Complaint has been read or considered for acceptance into the complaints process in any way. That is all yet to come. But we have made a huge step forward! That deserves a few cheers all round … even without the bubbly!
@ MuzzledNoMore: Great news! Thanks for sharing it. An important step has been taken on the road to freedom….
Calgary: Thanks so much for posting my comment up at the top!
I am also sorry I missed this. I don’t live in Canada, so I only just now became aware of this. Pity.
Van Berthem,
Check the link in the upper-right hand corner from time to time to see if there is any new word from the UN on our Human Rights Complaint. We do finally have a “READ RECEIP” that it actually got there but that is all. The next meeting (twice a year) of the committee that reviews such complaints appears to be in April 2015 and we hope our will be among those.
Thank you for submitting a Human Rights Complaint to the United Nations.
Had I known that a complaint was being submitted, I would have gladly allowed my signature to be added as a co-complainant. I guess that ship has already sailed, but if not feel free to add my name. I explicitly give you my permission.
Thanks for everything that you do.
Douglas Newman. (U.S. & Canada)
Douglas Newman: Thank you for being a willing added signatory to our Complaint! If it is necessary to file any additional information with the U.N. we will be happy to add your name.
All: our Complaint has recently received some press. http://www.proactiveinvestors.com/columns/casey-research/5234/obama-watch-fatca-on-tour-5234.html Mention of the Complaint is at the end of the article.
@ MuzzledNoMore – Superduper that Mr. Grove has shared with the world that a UN complaint has been made (by us!!!!!). However, I think he has conjoined the UN complaint (over CBT) with the Washington DC lawyer’s action on behalf of ADCS (in regard to Accidental Americans).
While certainly related, these are TWO separate actions that have been taken to try to let the US (and the world) know of the plight of 7 million overseas folks with US-Person yellow armbands. No reader-comments visible on this webpage; however, there is an opportunity (at the bottom) for comment on this article. Jump to action, all you IBS commenters; we all should reply to Mr. Grove’s misconception and let him know how busy we have been – – and how frustrated we are with the continuing IRS/US Congress status-quo.
LM, I don’t read the paragraph at the bottom of the article as a misconception but see it rather provided as a related action to the US litigation — it links directly to the post at Isaac Brock regarding the UN Complaint (and an awesome footnote to what is discussed in the rest of the article relating to the “road trip” related to the US litigation).
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The author also suggests that the complaint was filed on behalf of accidental Americans only. (Maybe that’s why you thought he’d confused the issues, LM.) In fact, our Complaint is against CBT as applied to *any* American who does not live within the borders of the USA. We want the practice of CBT to be disgraced and abolished. However, journalists get details wrong all the time and, in this instance, I don’t really care as long as the word is getting out.
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Now isn’t this awesome…
Report by UN Special Rapporteur on Tax and Human Rights
http://taxpol.blogspot.ca/2015/01/report-by-un-special-rapporteur-on-tax.html?m=1
Thanks for the link to this report noted at Allison Christian’s site, bubblebustin. The report refers to countries with extreme poverty — but that human rights in taxation is relevant should apply to US-defined *US Persons Abroad*. I hope Allison will give her views.
Was the UN Human Rights Complaint made only on behalf of so-called “accidentals?” Or was it against CBT as a whole?
Does it address FATCA, the Exit Tax, FBAR, and the Reed Amendment?
Maybe it can somehow be arranged for Allison Christians to address the UN Human Rights Commission as an academic expert on the matter.
FromTheWilderness:
The UN Human Rights Complaint filed in August 2014 was against CBT, FATCA and FBAR as a whole and on behalf of *everyone* affected by these policies. Exit taxes and the Reed Amendment were indeed mentioned as examples of the punitive policies we all face. It is a very comprehensive document and we don’t think we left any stone unturned.
I am curious about the Human rights complaint process. How long did it take for you to get your return receipt?
Turiyan Gold,
We have “a” return receipt dated October 31, 2014. We do not have any correspondence, email or otherwise, from any UN Human Rights Complaint Committee person acknowledging actual receipt. (That would have been automatically generated when someone opened an email.)
1 – Questions regarding properly sending our UN Human Rights Complaint sent July 26, 2014.
2 – UN Human Rights Complaint sent August 7, 2014.
3 – UN Human Rights Complaint re-sent on August 13, 2014 — to every address we could find.
4 – Several phone calls made early morning of August 15, 2014 to try to ascertain receipt — when finally got to talk to someone, that person hung up during the phone conversation.
At the bottom of this Tages-Anzeiger article the following is mentioned:
“The European Court for Human Rights must consider also the transfer of (banking) information: A Swiss, resident in the USA, filed a complaint in March 2013 in connection with an undeclared account at UBS.
The (Swiss) Federal Administrative Court approved the hand-over of this information. The plaintiff stated that it is the duty of a country to protect its citizens. He is contesting the decision on the basis that transferring information to a foreign state has the consequence that his actions are not a punishable as a crime in Switzerland.”
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/wirtschaft/unternehmen-und-konjunktur/Bankmitarbeiter-duerfen-weitergegebene-Daten-sehen/story/20385889
@calgary411 So has the thing actually been “filed” in the judicial sense? If you have received no correspondence, how do you know it will actually be considered?