Well, gee, guess who’s the pot calling the kettle black. Bobby. Of course, you’ll excuse your CUBAN IMMIGRANT parents…
@phiddler
Doesn’t that sound like the death of JPM? If this keeps going on, doesn’t it mean that more and more people will turn their backs on America and american? Wont more and more local firms open up to take over the US market? How does JPM want to get any new customers? And more and more I read all over the internet of people divesting from their american assets. Why hasn’t this shown itself yet in American markets? Last but not least, Europe wants to create its own internet to avoid NSA snooping. That would kill another market in America. I just keep wondering why this hasn’t shown affect yet and began to worry Americans?
Sorry- that should say “more and more local firms open up to AVOID the american market….”
Polly –
Because you are naive to think that things operate by your “logic”. The US has survived and continues to survive despite many atrocities. The USD remains a reserve currency, 10+ nuclear-powered aircraft carriers and other forms of soft- and hard-power ensure that life goes on …
phiddler, You’re a homelander troll. When you don’t get your way, of course, you’ll resort to force. Begone. I have no time for the likes of you.
“The US has survived and continues to survive despite many atrocities (most of which the United States has commited). The USD remains a reserve currency (for now), 10+ nuclear-powered aircraft carriers and other forms of soft- and hard-power ensure that life goes on (in the school yard this is known as bullying; the ones with the most power use it to enforce their will upon others and frankly there will be kickback when both Russia and China decide that the concessions that they have to make are too onerous on their populace as they seem to be the only two countries in the world who have the cojones to stand up to this kind of schoolyard bully.)” …
@The_Animal –
woah! I am merely stating my observations, for which you whip back at me. My personal state of affairs is rather insignificant in comparison to the grander scheme of things. So please be so kind and not take this discussion to make personal attacks. Rather make an attempt to understand the situation at large.
Example 1: I was in Europe before the Iraq invasion. Thousands of people took to the streets. Did it have any impact on the outcome (other than Bob Woodward cashing in on a best seller)?
Example 2: The US financial system added systemic risk at a grand scale by eliminating the Glass-Stegal act. This ultimately lead to the crisis in 2008. Did anything change (other than Taleb cashing in with a bestseller)?
Example 3: The 99% inequality brought to the attention through peaceful protest during the occupy movement was addressed by violent police breakup, despite constitutional provisions to free speech and assembly. Did anything change (other than Picketty cashing in with a bestseller)?
The US is a complex system, producing Levins et al, but also fine ladies such as Liz Warren and Nina Olsen.
Call me a troll if you like, but I presently have closer connections to the Scandinavian ones than those from the Homeland…
The same has been said of every other empire that’s failed, phiddler. Never say never.
There will come a time when the rest of the world will have been pushed to the brink too far. The Empire only stands because of the lack of resistance and fear generated. All it will take is one country to stand up to the United States.
Whether that will leave us in peace or in radioactive ash is yet to be determined. But let it be warned to Obama that if one presses Russia too far, they will retaliate. The United States needs to come to the realization that it does not control the rest of the world. It has stuck its nose in to foreign matters for far too long and is long overdue for a comeuppance.
To me a financial war is like military war; the casualties are similar, destroyed homes and destroyed families. If it comes to the choice between letting their country be destroyed by financial sanctions or destroying the United States and the rest of the world by nuclear hellfire. Which do you think the Russians will choose? It’s been demonstrated again and again. Napoleon’s invasion in 1812. Hitler’s Invasion in 1941. The Russians will fight to the death and will have no compunctions in pressing the big red button if they feel that their nation’s sovereignty is at stake and perish in Mutual Assured Destruction. Do you really feel that the United States is some sort of unstoppable force against that sort of culture?
@TheAnimal
History has proved this again and again.
Its just a question of when is too far to be pushed. And usually the fallout is ugly that way.
Would it be that this problem could be overcome “diplomatically”.
Has the most powerful nation on Earth lost its mind?
Jonathon Gatehouse
Article in Macleans magazine, May 26, 2014 issue
“Everywhere you look these days, America is in a rush to embrace the stupid. Hell-bent on a path that’s not just irrational, but often self-destructive.” http://www.macleans.ca/politics/america-dumbs-down/
Rand Paul is really going to bat for Americans abroad, but Menendez and Cardin aren’t touching that with a ten-foot pole and keep harping on about American companies being double taxed. Just like the Conservatives in Canada, the individual has no standing when it comes to protecting commercial interests.
Paul: “One of the things our Founding Fathers did with this body, by allowing filibuster and by allowing procedural ways to slow things down, was to allow Senators who are in the minority to try to influence legislation.”
What a brilliant mechanism!
Menendez mentioned that it is unfair that average hardworking citizens pay for those who have the money to go abroad and cheat on their taxes???!!!
He completely misses (or skirts) the point that many who are evading US taxes are doing so because they are bone fide residents abroad and they pay taxes where they live. I take Menendez’ comments to mean that either he is a complete idiot or a callous jerk who doesn’t give a crap about justice.
I almost clicked the obscene or abusive content button on that video, but it wouldn’t have done any good anyway.
@Polly:
In my opinion you are absolutely right .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/funds/10864539/Why-are-British-investors-being-forced-to-fill-in-US-tax-forms.html
say what????
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/01/your-2014-guide-scandals-surrounding-new-jersey-senator-bob-menendez/357360/
Well, gee, guess who’s the pot calling the kettle black. Bobby. Of course, you’ll excuse your CUBAN IMMIGRANT parents…
@phiddler
Doesn’t that sound like the death of JPM? If this keeps going on, doesn’t it mean that more and more people will turn their backs on America and american? Wont more and more local firms open up to take over the US market? How does JPM want to get any new customers? And more and more I read all over the internet of people divesting from their american assets. Why hasn’t this shown itself yet in American markets? Last but not least, Europe wants to create its own internet to avoid NSA snooping. That would kill another market in America. I just keep wondering why this hasn’t shown affect yet and began to worry Americans?
Sorry- that should say “more and more local firms open up to AVOID the american market….”
Polly –
Because you are naive to think that things operate by your “logic”. The US has survived and continues to survive despite many atrocities. The USD remains a reserve currency, 10+ nuclear-powered aircraft carriers and other forms of soft- and hard-power ensure that life goes on …
phiddler, You’re a homelander troll. When you don’t get your way, of course, you’ll resort to force. Begone. I have no time for the likes of you.
“The US has survived and continues to survive despite many atrocities (most of which the United States has commited). The USD remains a reserve currency (for now), 10+ nuclear-powered aircraft carriers and other forms of soft- and hard-power ensure that life goes on (in the school yard this is known as bullying; the ones with the most power use it to enforce their will upon others and frankly there will be kickback when both Russia and China decide that the concessions that they have to make are too onerous on their populace as they seem to be the only two countries in the world who have the cojones to stand up to this kind of schoolyard bully.)” …
@The_Animal –
woah! I am merely stating my observations, for which you whip back at me. My personal state of affairs is rather insignificant in comparison to the grander scheme of things. So please be so kind and not take this discussion to make personal attacks. Rather make an attempt to understand the situation at large.
Example 1: I was in Europe before the Iraq invasion. Thousands of people took to the streets. Did it have any impact on the outcome (other than Bob Woodward cashing in on a best seller)?
Example 2: The US financial system added systemic risk at a grand scale by eliminating the Glass-Stegal act. This ultimately lead to the crisis in 2008. Did anything change (other than Taleb cashing in with a bestseller)?
Example 3: The 99% inequality brought to the attention through peaceful protest during the occupy movement was addressed by violent police breakup, despite constitutional provisions to free speech and assembly. Did anything change (other than Picketty cashing in with a bestseller)?
The US is a complex system, producing Levins et al, but also fine ladies such as Liz Warren and Nina Olsen.
Call me a troll if you like, but I presently have closer connections to the Scandinavian ones than those from the Homeland…
The same has been said of every other empire that’s failed, phiddler. Never say never.
There will come a time when the rest of the world will have been pushed to the brink too far. The Empire only stands because of the lack of resistance and fear generated. All it will take is one country to stand up to the United States.
Whether that will leave us in peace or in radioactive ash is yet to be determined. But let it be warned to Obama that if one presses Russia too far, they will retaliate. The United States needs to come to the realization that it does not control the rest of the world. It has stuck its nose in to foreign matters for far too long and is long overdue for a comeuppance.
To me a financial war is like military war; the casualties are similar, destroyed homes and destroyed families. If it comes to the choice between letting their country be destroyed by financial sanctions or destroying the United States and the rest of the world by nuclear hellfire. Which do you think the Russians will choose? It’s been demonstrated again and again. Napoleon’s invasion in 1812. Hitler’s Invasion in 1941. The Russians will fight to the death and will have no compunctions in pressing the big red button if they feel that their nation’s sovereignty is at stake and perish in Mutual Assured Destruction. Do you really feel that the United States is some sort of unstoppable force against that sort of culture?
@TheAnimal
History has proved this again and again.
Its just a question of when is too far to be pushed. And usually the fallout is ugly that way.
Would it be that this problem could be overcome “diplomatically”.
Has the most powerful nation on Earth lost its mind?
Jonathon Gatehouse
Article in Macleans magazine, May 26, 2014 issue
“Everywhere you look these days, America is in a rush to embrace the stupid. Hell-bent on a path that’s not just irrational, but often self-destructive.”
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/america-dumbs-down/
Menendez, Paul, & Cardin had more words on Wednesday about the Swiss treaty
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r113:S04JN4-0019:/
Rand Paul and James Bopp: Champions of Expats!
Rand Paul is really going to bat for Americans abroad, but Menendez and Cardin aren’t touching that with a ten-foot pole and keep harping on about American companies being double taxed. Just like the Conservatives in Canada, the individual has no standing when it comes to protecting commercial interests.
Paul: “One of the things our Founding Fathers did with this body, by allowing filibuster and by allowing procedural ways to slow things down, was to allow Senators who are in the minority to try to influence legislation.”
What a brilliant mechanism!
Menendez mentioned that it is unfair that average hardworking citizens pay for those who have the money to go abroad and cheat on their taxes???!!!
He completely misses (or skirts) the point that many who are evading US taxes are doing so because they are bone fide residents abroad and they pay taxes where they live. I take Menendez’ comments to mean that either he is a complete idiot or a callous jerk who doesn’t give a crap about justice.
I almost clicked the obscene or abusive content button on that video, but it wouldn’t have done any good anyway.