From Normandy to Okinawa, Americans abroad feel the shutdown
“No one outside the U.S. is able to do check clearance. It’s an international problem, it’s not a problem only in Israel.” American banks are not processing for clearance any checks coming from outside the U.S. The Jerusalem money changer believes this is yet one more result of the American government shutdown, which is into its second day…Federal Reserve Banks will continue to process checks and provide a mechanism for checks and funds to move between banks. But, apparently, while lending institutions will not suffer, individuals attempting to use their services—at least outside the U.S.—are not nearly as fortunate.
However, the US government is still providing services in areas where it believes that it can cash in on its expats:
The State Department would continue processing foreign applications for visas and U.S. applications for passports, since fees are collected to finance those services.
Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul caught on a hot mike talking about the Republican shut down strategy:
“I think if we keep saying, ‘We wanted to defund it, we fought for that, but now we’re willing to compromise on this,’ Paul said. “I know we don’t want to be here, but we’re going to win this I think.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/mitch-mcconnell-rand-paul-government-shutdown-97795.html#ixzz2gnOqwL1B
Another attempt by liberal Hollywood to divert attention to the fact that the United States Government is attempting to do exactly what the film accuses the Soviets of doing. Using terrorist tactics to destabilize the economies not of the United States, but of the entire world through FATCA. And the liberal lemming masses will gobble this up and say yet again, “How great we are be able to have the technology to defend ourselves when this kind of thing is threatened.” The “awake” can draw parallels between celluloid and real life and this unfortunately with FATCA looming hits too damned close to real-life.
I’ve always disliked Hollywood: very rarely does anything of value come out of there and this is why I refuse to watch anything that comes out of brainless teeming masses at Tinseltown except for maybe Star Wars. With the way that the United States is becoming – they seem to resemble the Galactic Empire up to and including Palpatine (Obama).
I’ve updated the post. Americans expats are not totally shutdown by the US government:
Another rebuttal for those who say paying US taxes abroad covers US passport services.
and, in http://isaacbrocksociety.ca/renunciation/comment-page-57/#comment-561011
“The Department of State will continue passport and visa operations as well as provide critical services to U.S. citizens overseas. These activities are fee-funded and are not affected by the lapse in appropriations.”
“C. Consular Operations Domestically and Overseas: Consular operations domestically and overseas will remain 100% operational as long as there are sufficient fees to support operations. However, if a passport agency is located in a government building affected by a lapse in appropriations, the facility may become unsupported. The continuance of consular operations in such instances will be treated on a case-by-case basis by the Under Secretary for Management.”
From Just Me: Can’t Stop The Machine: During Shutdown, IRS Computers Still Churn Out Tax Liens, Levies And Bills http://onforb.es/1f6dqne via @forbes
I loved that it was pointed out:
Does anyone know if the guys doing CLN processing back in D.C. are laid off, or not?
I don’t know the answer, but I see no one’s replied yet. So, though I have no definite answer, these are my thoughts on it.
I read this on the Washington Post site
Which led to a State Dept memo, “Guidance on Operations During a Lapse in Appropriations” (rather lengthy, I didn’t read it all).
I don’t know how the shutdown affects issuance of CLNs. I can’t see it would be considered an essential service (to the US govt), but as it’s handled by American Citizen Services I think it may fall under “Consular operations domestically.” But then again, the building, being located in DC, may be one “affected by a lapse in appropriations.” So, I’m pretty clueless.
At any rate, until you get your CLN, you have your $450 receipt as “interim proof” of your renunciation. MedeaFleecestealer, who lives in Switzerland,reported
that when her bank required proof she was not a USC,
I think her bank took her at her word, but if necessary the receipt would back up a person’s word that a CLN is in processing.
As well if you’re planning to enter the US on your Canadian passport, generally it’s not been a problem so far. But also DHS/CBP knows that your CLN is in processing.
Thanks for sharing your story in the BBC article. Hope you get your CLN soon. Til then you should be okay, though.
Thanks for this.
I argued for a relinquishment however, and it rather bothered me that I left the building with zero proof that I had even been there(!) There is no fee for relinquishment as I discovered from this site, and in fact no money was either asked for or given. The downside is there’s no receipt either.
Good to know about the border database; I may go for family reasons for a brief visit and was worried about not having any proof.