See also, Dominant nationality and why it matters
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Who’s to say that some day they might expand their definition of ‘terrorist’ so that even outspoken tax protesters could be deemed a dangerous threat and thus on the drone list. Far-fetched but not out-of-the-question.
Funny, but chilling. Frankly, with what we have seen, I wouldn’t put it past them.
There are two important steps:
First, make their “killings” legitimate by making them legal – for most people “morality” = “legality” (this step has been completed)
Second, expand the definition to include more and more people in the “permissible” group to be killed.
You will see more and more people killed by U.S. drones.
@USC, exactly. At first, it will just be the obvious Al Queida terrorists they’ll target; then, as times passes, especially if the economy collapses, they’ll become more desperate and expand their definition of the ‘permissible’ group to be killed.
As for ourselves, I think it’s more likely that once the FATCA reporting takes place from spring 2015 that we’ll see more foreign accounts being frozen as has recently happened in Israel.
We shall fight drones on the beaches.
Continuing the “cheery note” of my last comment, I remind everybody that FBAR was referred to in the deliberations leading up to the Patriot Act. By so doing, the U.S. government has established a legislative link between U.S. citizens abroad and terrorists – clearly the U.S. government believes that bank accounts outside the U.S. are potential instruments/facilitators of terrorism. Hence, it will be very very easy to expand their “kill list”. The argument would go like this:
“Let’s be perfectly clear:
1. Bank accounts outside the U.S. are associated with terrorist activity.
2. U.S. citizens abroad use bank accounts outside the U.S.
Therefore, U.S. citizens are presumed to be associated with terrorist activities.
In the context of the FBAR rules, this would mean that failure to report would be understood to be hiding evidence of terrorism.
So, as time goes on, the U.S. government will see no logical problem in droning any U.S. citizen abroad based solely on having a bank outside the U.S.
Perhaps as a protective measure U.S. citizens abroad should stop using anything that is reportable on an FBAR.
And finally, on the point of the definition of a terrorist/terrorism.
Who knows? And that’s part of the problem. But, I think the definition would be:
Any violence directed against the U.S. by an entity other than a foreign government.
What do you think of that definition?
Finally, what I am describing won’t happen next week, next month or next year. But, it will happen. “But, to be perfectly clear”: U.S. citizens abroad are nothing more than collateral damage in the war of terror.
Be honest: Don’t you feel a bit of pride in being selected to die for your country?
For the new visitors attracted to this shared post: Isaac Brock Society is a site for people to understand the disastrous effects of varsious legislation upon US Citizens abroad and the corresponding disastrous effects upon the trade deficit of the United States. This regards especially 2010 HIRE Act HR 2847 which includes FATCA and deals with FBAR. (Google it)
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