Consulate Report Directory (Brockers Describe their Consulate Meetings) and CLN Delivery Time Chart Part 2
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Wonder what really happens at the consulates? Find out in the Isaac Brock Society’s Consulate Report Directory, currently 279 pages of first-hand accounts of renunciation/relinquishment appointments, arranged by consulate location, along with further information and links to the required Dept of State forms and the Dept of State manuals used by the consulates in processing CLN applications, with an appendix containing a timeline chart (booking-meeting-CLN) as reported by consulate location.
The Directory is updated as consulate visit stories are posted on the website.
You can post here or elsewhere on the site (we’ll keep an eye out for them). Some comments may be excerpted or condensed slightly in the consulate reports. The original posts and comments remain on their threads are not edited.
Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences…and keep ’em coming! It’s a new experience for everyone and your information is really helpful.
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Notes:
Consulates are listed alphabetically by country and the Directory’s table of contents links to each section (they don’t look like links, but they are.)
This thread is a continuation of Consulate Report Directory Part 1, which contains earlier discussion on this topic, 929 comments from its inception in March 2012 through February 2013.
To Book an Appointment and/or Request Information from your Local Consulate:
This post by Eric, Almost No US Citizenship Renunciation Appointments Left During 2016 in Dublin, contains a chart of links to the consulates’ website pages on renunciation/relinquishment, for info on booking appointments and/or requesting information at your location. (The title highlights Dublin, but the charts, article and discussion cover consulates around the world.)
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Wow, Edelweiss, the timing of the receipt of your CLN makes it truly special — Happy Independence Day to you!!!
Hope you’ll stick around and help us out. We all need to keep up the good fight for others.
The US Embassy in Ottawa is requiring 2 visits. (July 2013)
My wife was fully prepared with every document and form filled out but was told that, under no circumstances, could she renounce with one visit. So she has to go back again, but next time it will just to do the oath since all the documentation on her file will be complete.
Thanks, CanCan, for this new information that the US Embassy in Ottawa is again requiring two visits for renunciations.
Just want to thank everyone. I received my CLN today (July 15) for my S.5 renunciation on May 7 (after being refused an S.1. relinquishment back in April.
Thanks again for all the advice/help.
BenPloni
Hey, congratulations BenPloni! Not a bad turnaround time. Now you have something to celebrate. Enjoy.
@BenPloni
Congratulations! If it’s any comfort to you I want to thank you again for having posted your experiences some time ago that led up to this day. Based on your experiences, I resolved to prepare very carefully and to use the Tel Aviv Embassy to relinquish hoping that their staff would handle it better. (I live between the two locations so I had a choice.) In no small part your experiences helped me to achieve a better outcome.
Toda Raba
Yitzi
@ BenPloni,
Congratulations on getting your CLN! Thank you so much for sharing your research and experiences about this!
@ Edelweiss and all,
I just today received my CLN letter, hand delivered to my home. This is the end of the procedure, save the final tax reporting in Jan. I started in May with my enquiries, got the forms and returned them late in May, was given June 11 as my interview, went and renounced on that day, and was told it would take 8-10 weeks for State to process the letter. It took almost exactly 4 weeks. Everybody was polite and helpful. I received my cancelled passport in the same post. All done and dusted. In comparison to everybody else, it was very quick. My brother’s quip was that they really really wanted to get rid of me. Maybe, but I wonder if it’s because I’m retired? So of no interest from a tax point of view? But that’s giving them a lot of credit for looking and thinking. No, just lucky, I guess. Thanks to all of you for your help. I’ll stay around and comment wherever I can. Blessings!
@All–thanks for the regards.
@Yitzi: Could you send me your e-mail address–I wanted to ask you something private…
benploni@zipeee.33mail.com
Thanks.
Rev Susi congrats to you too! It must be CLN delivery day today.
Rev Susi,
Thanks for your report and congratulations on such a straight-forward process for your renunciation and receipt of your CLN in four weeks compared to the 8 – 10 weeks estimate. Glad it’s done and dusted for you. All the best.
Congratulations, BenPloni, on receiving your CLN. Your reports have been helpful and a good resource for experience in your part of the world!
[I need to do some work to bring the Renunciation and Relinquishment database up to date. My husband and I are working as foster parents as there are so many animals needing space from the Calgary Human Society after the recent flood in southern Alberta. I will get there — this responsibility has taken my mind off a lot of what obsesses me here. I have NOT received a reply from Sylvia D. Johnson and it looks like I won’t (http://isaacbrocksociety.ca/2013/06/29/accidental-americans-born-abroad-to-us-parents-and-not-registered-with-the-us-are-they-automatic-us-citizens-or-do-they-have-a-right-to-claim-us-citizenship-when-they-can-make-that-decision-as-an/comment-page-5/#comment-423525). I will send off one more email this week to see what comes of it.]
Stay tuned just in case there is an answer to our question of : Accidental Americans born abroad to US parent(s) and not registered with the US: Are they AUTOMATIC US citizens OR do they have THE OPTION to claim US citizenship when they can make that decision as an adult?.
@ Rev Susi
Congrats! Seems like London is pretty consistently delivering CLNs in a month.
@Calgary,
Thanks.. Will be interesting to see if you get a response. I have that e-mail from Toronto confirming that my kids aren’t citizens until and if I register, so that is good enough for me if anyone ever questions it for now.
@Calgary,
Have you thought about e-mailing the
Office of Policy Review and Inter-Agency Liaison (CA/OCS/PRI)
Overseas Citizens Services
Bureau of Consular Affairs
ASKPRI@state.gov
U.S. Department of State
4th Floor
2100 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, DC 20037
I bet they could give you a definitive answer.
You include me the message to them as well or we could send a joint letter as it affects me too of course.
My e-mail is above in the message to Yitzi.
@BenPloni,
I have taken your advice and sent an email to ASKPRI@state.gov and cc’d you (a forward of the last response from Sylvia D. Johnson at the Ottawa Embassy, saying she would respond by COB on Friday, and my original query). I guess which Friday wasn’t clear. No answer yet.
@ calgary411
Do you want to delete that e-mail address? If so, please delete this comment too.
Thanks to all the well wishers! I must be lucky to be in the UK, now for another reason.
Thanks, Em — that certainly was not too smart of me. Although it appears other less obvious places here on Isaac Brock. Deleted and will delete this and yours too soon.
@Ben Ploni and Rev Susi
Congratulations to both of you. Thanks for sharing your experience through this nightmare.
This is how you’re helping others.
@All, I went for my CLN on Monday the 15th of July. I took the subway down to St. Patrick and was a bit early so had a coffee across the street at Timothy’s.. I went to the Simcoe street entrance about 1:40 for my 2:00 pm appt. There was a long line for visas but no line for Americans. I went to that one. Went through outside check, inside entry check. My remote control key for car was held and I was given a clear plastic rectangle to get my key back when leaving the building. There was another check point and then another person directing me to the elevator to the 3rd floor. There was no line.. A man served me. He looked like an ex Marine type. He asked what I was here for . I said for my CLN as I relinquished my US citizenship when I became a Canadian citizen in 1993. He took my birth certificate, marriage certificate and Canadian passport and citizenship certificate. Then a woman came out . Her name was Nancy. She asked that I was renouncing. I explained again I came for my CLN as I relinquished my citizenship in 1993 when I became a Canadian. She asked if I had a US passport or property. I had my 4079 filled out and I ha to sign the 4081 and filled and signed the 4083. She said I should have it in 2 – 4 months. one thing she didn’t ask if I would pick up or mail it. Does that come with another notification?. I was a bit nervous.
While waiting for them to check my papers I went into the waiting room where there was a man waiting and another woman came in after me… She mentioned about all the security and I said well it is the US counsel. She also said she was renouncing and asked if I was there for that. I said no, I was there for my CLN and that I relinquished in 1993. She said she came to Canada as a child while her parents worked here and they moved back to the USA and when she was 18 she came back in 1970 to immigrate. She said she came for a boyfiend.. She is married to a Canadian now. She said she filled out the bank FBURS and income tax reports She had never filed US income tax before since being in Canada. ( I had up to and including my Cdn citizenship year. Then I stopped.) She was told what to do when she called the US counsel and had just paid the $450 for renouncing. She was shocked when I told her I did not pay the $450. She had never heard of the Isaac Brock society. I asked her if she wanted to have a coffee afterward but she had another appointment. She said there are many other ex Americans in her area, Pickering. Many will not do anything regarding FATCA. I left after she had to go up and I was not even in the building for an hour.
I didn’t have a celebration drink. or a cigar. Oh well, that will happen when I get my CLN paper.
When I do get my CLN, It will be a relief..
PS My MP told me that he has been working with our revenue tax person on the FATCA issue.
That was all he wrote to my email..
@northernstar;
Thank you for that description of your experience in Toronto. It is unfortunate that the other person did not know that perhaps she could have relinquished too, and had not heard of IBS. But, you tried. There are so many of us, and each with a different situation and story.
May your CLN come very soon!
@all who received their CLNs recently, or who completed the renunciation/relinquishment process, congratulations! I have fallen behind in congratulating you all, but have followed the progress here, and rejoice in every one who has been successful. All best wishes to you.
@Northern Star,
Thanks for sharing your experience at Toronto! And congratulations — I also relinquished long ago, so I felt a terrific sense of relief leaving the consulate, sort of like normalcy had returned.
I wouldn’t be concerned that they didn’t ask if you wanted to pick up the CLN or have it sent by mail. If you’re from out of town, they may have assumed you want it by mail — at any rate, it’ll either turn up in your mailbox (that happened to several of us out-of-towners) or you’ll get a call when it’s ready (some Toronto residents have reported that) and if the latter, you can just tell them then that you’d like it sent by post. The CLNs are arriving here more quickly than they used to, so hopefully you’ll have it soon!
@ Rev. Susi,
Congratulations on getting your CLN! That is really neat that you accomplished everything, start to finish, in two months. Thanks for sharing your London experience!
@ CanCan,
Thanks for the info about Ottawa. Too bad they’re requiring 2 visits. What month is your wife’s second visit scheduled for? At one point, Ottawa was scheduling them a year apart and causing other problems, but they really improved at the beginning of 2013. Hopefully visit 2 will be soon and she’ll get her CLN pretty quickly after that.