Dear Supporters,
Many of you probably predicted that I would not be saying this today, but this message is not a dream: You came up with yet another $100,000 payment — now making a total of $400,000 provided to the Arvay team.
In the last twelve days you actually donated more than $40,000 — an amazing achievement for small donors. This accomplishment proves to all those people who want us to fail — that we are very determined.
You gave until it hurt and then you gave a lot more. It’s hard not to get teary-eyed over the generosity of our supporters, who have come through every time.
We know that the pace of your litigation is painfully slow, and this is unfortunately as expected. The Government will continue to do its best to slow down the process, but we now have the assistance of a case management judge to help keep the process moving more fairly.
We filed in August 2014 and it has taken a very long time (one year) before we are finally into a (summary) trial (August 4-5, 2015). We cannot predict the outcomes of this trial, based on only part of our arguments and, with your continued support, we will prepare for all possibilities.
[Happy birthday Gwen!]
Thank you for your trust,
Stephen Kish,
ADCS-ADSC Chair,— on behalf of Plaintiffs Ginny and Gwen, their families, and the ADCS-ADSC Directors
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Chers amis et donateurs,
Certains d’entre vous avaient probablement pensé que je ne pourrais pasvous annoncer une si bonne nouvelle aujourd’hui. Mais voilà : ensemble, nous avons réussi à ramasser un autre montant de 100 000 $, ce qui fait un total de 400 000 $ à remettre à l’équipe de MeArvay.
Dans les 12 derniers jours seulement, vous avez donné plus de 40 000 $, un exploit tout à fait extraordinaire pour des « petits donateurs ». À tous ceux qui souhaitent nous voir échouer, cette réussite prouve que nous sommes des plus déterminés. Et que nous réussirons.
Vous avez donné jusqu’à ce que ça fasse mal, puis vous avez donné encore. Difficile de rester insensible devant une si grande générosité.
Nous sommes bien conscients du fait que notre litige avance de façon péniblement lente. Malheureusement, tout ça est normal. Le gouvernement continue à ralentirle processus, mais on nous a maintenant attitré un juge responsable de la gestion de notre dossier qui veillera à ce que le processus progresse de façon plus juste.
En août 2014, nous avons engagé une poursuite contre le gouvernement canadien. Près d’un an plus tard, nous avons enfin la date pour notre procès sommaire : les 4 et 5 août 2015. Impossible de prévoir le dénouement de ce procès, basé uniquement sur une partie de nos arguments juridiques. Mais avec votre appui, nous serons prêts pour toutes les possibilités.
(Bonne fête, Gwen !)
Au nom de nos deux plaignantes, Ginny et Gwen, de leurs familles et des directeurs de l’ADCS-ADSC, je vous remercie de votre confiance.
Stephen Kish,
Président de l’ADCS-ADSC
Ann You are.
@Fred, who said:
“FATCA is here to stay, or some variation of it”
That is like saying Hitler and Nazism is here to stay in Germany in the 30’s so don’t fight it, relax and accept it.
Well, many did for a long while and look where that got us!
It was only when the world began to fight it that it was eventually defeated. Had they not delayed many millions of lives would have been saved.
What we face today is no less an evil intended to end our sovereignty and ultimately our lives. Our choices will be to fight or become slaves and in some cases, when all our rights have been stripped away and our ability to defend is no longer available to us, to die.
@George:
You said you have no fear of GATCA other than FATCA left a bad taste in your mouth.
Well, GATCA will guarantee you have not only a bad taste but no water to wash it away.
Let us be clear: It is intended that our rights considering everything on this planet will be stripped and placed in the hands of the very few and our hands are not among them!
@Lake Superior
Now hold on a minute, no wasting any pianos on Chuck Schumer! How about something more mushy & disgusting?
Congrats on the coming of your new grandchild! Also visiting OH this summer. Hope no problems for you and pls do post if they hassle.
We require $22K in two days. What happens if we don’t make this deadline?
@Tricia
Thanks for the best wishes. We’re excited. Re: Chuck
Schumer…how about a safe stuffed with greenbacks instead of a piano?
@Marie
We require $22K in two days. What happens if we don’t make this deadline?
If the ADSC-ADCS directors feel differently I’m sure they will chime in: but I suspect it is still premature to be having this discussion. The thermometer–after moving slowly for most of the last few months–has ticked up a lot in the last few days. I suspect the expectation is still that this trend will continue and we will get there by Friday.
@ Dash1729
You noticed too. In the past 10 days a SUM of $21,141, AVERAGE of $2,114 per day, has been raised. I’m sure the ADCS team has a plan for a shortfall. Wish I could help with this 2 day push but the earliest I can get something in the mail is Friday.
@Dash1729
From your mouth to God’s ear.
@Lake Superior
MUCH better. much!!
Down below $20K to go. That’s looking better. Could there possibly be someone with deep pockets out there who will step up and become a donor? If there is, right now would be a great time to do it. To all new donors, no matter what size your pockets are — it’s heart-warming that you have joined in this effort to assert that the sovereignty of nations and the human rights of individuals DO MATTER!
http://www.globalbankingandfinance.com/devere-ceo-nigel-green-named-as-ops-business-person-of-the-year/
Hmmm, speaking of deep pockets. Nigel Green, CEO of deVere Group, has been an avid opponent of FATCA right from the get go. He was recently given the ‘Ops Business Person of The Year’ award in recognition of his campaign against FATCA. I don’t know if he has contributed to ADCS but our campaign would mesh well with his campaign I think. Could someone from the ADCS team extend an invitation to Mr. Green to donate (providing he hasn’t already done so)? I think it would be an appropriate way for him to celebrate his well deserved new award.
This was the first of Mr. Green’s FATCA articles that I read (written late 2012). Others followed it.
http://www.nigel-green.com/2012/10/23/fatca-a-stage-too-far/
Hi All,
Just saw this:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-bank-fees-target-kids-accounts-and-allow-double-dipping-say-customers-1.3052637
The story claims the increases in banking fees are due to low interest rates, but I wonder how much of it is due to the FATCA compliance overhead. Surely, some of it, right? If so, here we have a concrete example of the costs of FATCA spilling over to all Canadians. But, of course, hardly anyone outside our community here even knows what FATCA and the Canadian FATCA IGA are? Interest rates have been pretty low in this country for many years now, and I find it hard to believe that it is only now cutting into their profits. Are the banks falsely blaming it on this to avoid outrage over the fact that corporate greed plus the loss of Canadian sovereignty at the hands of a foreign bully are the real causes?
@Refugee — I wondered the same thing.
@EmBee — check out this article. It’s one I read before my crazy dream of a couple of weeks ago, that the thermometer amount dropped overnight by $27,000. (Do the math — from today, $20K divided by $10B.) I did a Google search, but couldn’t find any follow-up on this article.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/07/fatca-tax/
“We approached Mr. Green twice over a span of many months, but he made it clear that he would never donate to this lawsuit. We tried many other deep-pocketed people as well — no success.” — Stephen Kish
Well that’s disappointing and puzzling too. I struck out with a deep-pocketed person too so even though I don’t understand why this happens I guess we just keep on keeping on with a multitude of donors who feel ADCS is worth supporting.
Did Nigel Green give a reason for not offering a “deep pocketed” donation despite being opposed to FATCA?
If I had to guess, I would guess the reason is that Green–from what I can tell about him on the Web–doesn’t really have a Canadian background. Although ADSC-ADCS accepts donations from all, it has chosen to market itself with a very, very Canadian flavour–it is the Alliance for Defense of Canadian Sovereignty–with the associate blogs of Isaac Brock and Maple Sandbox both also having a very patriotic Canadian aura to them.
IMHO the ideal deep pocketed donor would be a HNWI from Canadian–resident in Canada, born and raised in Canada and–importantly–made their money in Canada.
An example would be a Canadian-born NHL player who is currently on and has spent most of their career on a Canadian NHL team.
Or a business executive with a brand that has a very Canadian aura to it–Tim Hortons comes to mind although they were recently sold to Burger King they have had a Canadian focus for most of their history.
@ canoe
About 2 weeks ago the rise in the Sovereignty Thermometer accelerated — roughly $27K was donated in that period. I hope you dream of an overnight rise of $19K tonight. 🙂
@ Dash1729
I can’t be specific but one of the deep-pocketed types you described is pretty close to who I tried — sadly no luck. 🙁
Nigel Green won the award he asked some of us to vote for him on.
http://www.bloomberg.com/research/markets/news/article.asp?docKey=600-201504280854M2______EUPR_____75310000019932a8_3600-1
He will not donate to us but said he would continue to champion our cause. I do not know what that means.
If anyone has contacts with other Deep Pockets, please find them now!
Nigel tweeted that his stand on FATCA helped him win the award.
Nigel Green @nigeljgreen 9h9 hours ago
#FATCA stand has helped us win this award. We need to bring #FATCA folly more to attention http://www.globalbankingandfinance.com/devere-ceo-nigel-green-named-as-ops-business-person-of-the-year/ …
I replied congratulating him and again asking him to help.
Nigel Green @nigeljgreen 9h9 hours ago
#FATCA stand has helped us win this award. We need to bring #FATCA folly more to attention http://www.globalbankingandfinance.com/devere-ceo-nigel-green-named-as-ops-business-person-of-the-year/ …
I congratulated him and again asked him to help.
Lynne Swanson @LynneBlaze 50m50 minutes ago
@nigeljgreen Congrats on award. Hope u will help @ADCSovereignty stopfatca.ca Stop #FATCA now. Pls donate.
@ Blaze
Good tweeting! I posted a comment at globalbankingandfinance.com but it remains in moderation. I tried to apply a light touch but maybe it didn’t come across that way …
Congratulations to Nigel Green. He certainly deserves this award for being one of the first out of the gate to oppose FATCA. I am puzzled though as to why he would not consider helping with the funding of a Canadian lawsuit which is challenging the implementation of FATCA in Canada. His campaign and the Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty’s campaign seem to be quite complementary. Anyway I hope that he continues to express his very valid concerns about FATCA and that he gains even more recognition for doing this.
@Blaze
I think it would be very helpful to find out the reason why he isn’t financially supporting the ADSC-ADCS effort.
My guess would be that it is because this lawsuit is very Canada-centric but he has a more global perspective–but he could have another reason. As I say it would be to know.
I wonder if he could be asked to offer some comments in support of this lawsuit. Even if he won’t be a deep pocketed supporter, he may very well have attracted enough positive publicity right now to inspire enough new small pocketed supporters to get us over the top.
@Dash1729
Could be that he may have clients who may take his donation to a lawsuit the wrong way… people are funny like that… if he wants… he can do it anonymously…. no one would out him… I don’t care who donates as long as they donate to this cause… we need all the funds we can get… US gov’t can not win… we won’t let them… people move around… why ball & chain them to something that is from the 50’s… Majority in the gov’t from what I see… has never lived anywhere other then the US & don’t understand jack… they are set in their ways… we have to unset them any way we can… its time for these so called representatives of the people… get a swift kick in the butt… anything made outside of the US… its none of your dang business… don’t care if its a citizen or not… none of it was made in the US…
@ Dash1729
There are also a number of US-born NFL players who have decided to stay here in Canada; they, too, probably are in the same FATCA situation as the rest of us (if only they knew about ADCS…..).
I have a list of lots of probably deep-pocketed US=born-but-living -in-Canada “famous folk” if anyone is interested in trying another “please help the cause” mailing. Now that FATCA is in “progress”, maybe (MAYBE) they might be more curious/interested????? Let me know if this is something you might want to pursue as an individual (not a representative of any organization, especially ADCS) reaching out to others who are FATCA-afflicted.