UPDATE January 24, 2015: THIRD OF FIVE LEGAL BILLS PAID
[We now have a NEW POST taking us up to May 1, 2015. This post will be retired from service.]
On August 11, 2014, Constitutional Litigator Joseph Arvay filed a FATCA IGA lawsuit in Canada Federal Court on behalf of Plaintiffs Ginny and Gwen, the Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty (en français), and all peoples worldwide. Read Alliance’s Claims and comment on our Alliance blog.
Chers amis et donateurs,
Ensemble, nous avons atteint notre but : ramasser les fonds nécessaires pour payer la troisième des cinq factures légales de notre poursuite judiciaire.
Ramasser 300 000 $ provenant de petits dons est un exploit tout à fait extraordinaire et nous invitons notre gouvernement canadien, ainsi que tous les autres gouvernements qui ont piétiné les droits de leurs citoyens, à en prendre bonne note.
Chaque jour, nous nous rapprochons de notre but. Déjà, nous avons ramassé plus de la moitié des fonds nécessaires pour payer les frais légaux de notre poursuite contre le gouvernement canadien et l’entente FATCA.
Si nous avons parcouru un si grand bout de chemin, c’est grâce à nos deux courageuses plaignantes, Ginny et Gwen, à nos donateurs provenant du Canada et de partout dans le monde, ainsi qu’aux administrateurs des sites Internet Isaac Brock Society et Maple Sandbox. Ils permettent tous à nos voix d’être entendues.
Merci !
L’équipe de l’ADSC
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Dear Friends and Supporters,
Together we have reached our goal of paying off the third of five retainer fees for our Canadian FATCA IGA lawsuit.
Raising $300,000 from small donations is a pretty amazing achievement and we ask the Government of Canada, and those other governments who have also tossed away rights of their citizens, to take notice.
It’s still a marathon, but we are more than half way to pay off the Federal Court legal costs.
We have come so far because of our brave Plaintiffs, Ginny and Gwen, our Canadian and International donor-supporters, and the administrators of the Isaac Brock and Maple Sandbox websites who make it possible for our voices to be heard.
Thank you all,
—The ADCS-ADSC team
@ Tinjapan
Welcome and thank you. You can have them put A.D.C.S. – A.D.S.C. on the money order because the full name is too long usually. (It’s been working for me.)
Time to get creative. Japan Post says that they do not have international postal money order services to Canada. If I had a postal savings account number and your bank account info, then perhaps I could send money through the postal service.
So, do you or anyone you know have an eBay seller’s account? If so, post something for sale under my name as buy now and accept my offer. Unless, this idea runs afoul of anti money laundering statutes. I have bought items from Canada through eBay and paid via PayPal.
@ Tinjapan
That sounds overly complicated. Just put some cash in an envelope and mail it to the ADCS address (http://www.adcs-adsc.ca/DonateADCS.html).
Tinjapan
Hi – I am ADCS treasurer/ The second option is not workable from a proper accounting point of view and we cannot do that. I will look tomorrow for the the other pmts we have received from Japan and let you know. Pretty sure one was a bank draft. Can you do an etransfer? It is 2:30 am here and I am sorry but I must sleep. Thank you for wanting to donate!
I just use a regular old envelope.
@Tinjapan EBay seller account = PayPal.
Money in an envelope not really workable since it would be Japanese yen. Bank draft…tried one around 5 years ago. Didn’t work and I had to wait three months for the money to be returned to me. Also, with all the reporting required, I am afraid to burden my bank to the point they close my account.
I can purchase things via PayPay but can not donate. Or I at least could make purchases, maybe that has changed too.
I have asked a friend in Canada if I can “purchase” something from them and they then forward it on to you. Failing there, I have a friend from Canada here in Japan who once had a small trading company. His daughter went to Canada last year, he may know how I can send money.
I fear it is going to be a lot of work for a small amount.
@Tinjapan, “Money in an envelope not really workable since it would be Japanese yen.”
Thats what I do and have sent donations over time in actual multiple currencies. ADCS has no problems making deposits and yen currency will work.
I have sent a single 100 euro note and all went well. You do not want to send a stack of money.
@Tinjapan,
Thank you for your interest in donating!
A wire transfer would probably work, but I know that Japanese Yen in an envelope works fine.
We have an anonymous donor from Japan who sends Yen in an envelope and I have no problem (in Toronto at a special bank) in converting the yen to Canadian dollars to deposit into our donation fund.
@Tinjapan, one other idea is that you can go to any Western Union office and send money to Canada!!
http://www.westernunion.co.jp/en/
@Donors, when sending money to ADCS try to use a nice stamp. It might make a nice montage when this is all done.
@Stephen Kish, envelope from the EU is on the way today!!
That’s what I’ll do then! It’ll save money too, money orders are $20.!
Thanks for the advice.
@Tinjapan
The other way to work it is… give the yens to your friend from Canada in Japan… have his daughter send the sum in canadian funds… when she goes back to Japan… she will have some extra walking money… Or she may still have an account in Japan that he can deposit the money in… that is one way I get money to one of my family… I swap with a friend that is in a foreign land from Canada
@ Tinjapan
Well that’s settled then. Great. Sorry I didn’t add more to my comment last night because I knew Stephen would have no trouble converting Japanese yen into Canadian dollars. One just does that over the counter here in the larger metropolitan banks. Stephen will look forward to seeing an envelope with a pretty Japanese stamp on it. Thank you!
@ Stephen Kish
There’s an envelope on its way from my husband … just an ordinary Canadian stamp though. Besides the temperature rising on the Sovereignty Thermometer, I now visualize your blood pressure reading dropping on a blood pressure monitor (or what we used to call a sphygmomanometer). Take care … we’ll get there. 🙂
Following procedures from that US manual, Chapter on “Foot-dragging”, that the US has lent to the Conservative Government of Canada: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/wp/2015/01/14/internal-pentagon-information-can-be-yours-if-youre-not-in-a-hurry/?tid=HP_federal?tid=HP_federal
Something en route soon!
This was recently posted on the RO FB page:
“IMPORTANT!!!! Michael DeSombre, Republicans Overseas Worldwide President, is happy to announce today at the global RO meeting in San Diego (as part of the RNC Winter Meeting) that through the generosity of many of you and others sufficient funds have been raised for the FATCA lawsuit to proceed.
As a result, the lawsuit is now in FULL SCALE PLAINTIFF IDENTIFICATION and processing mode. A few initial plaintiffs have been identified, however a few more plaintiffs are needed to bolster the damage caused by FATCA.
Americans overseas who have been harmed by FATCA and those Americans overseas forced to renounce their US citizenship who are willing to step up and serve as Plaintiffs for the lawsuit, please contact Michael DeSombre at DeSombreM@sullcrom.com.
If you know of anyone that may be willing to be a plaintiff, please speak to them to confirm their basic situation and contact Michael DeSombre so the process can be taken further.”
@ Charl – well this is important news!!!!! I will try to spread this through the Expatblog website to US folks abroad too.
I still wonder what the reaction will be in other countries when FATCA is taken through the courts and proven to be unconstitutional IN THE USA – – what will all the FFIs do with their billions of dollars worth of FATCA infrastructure? And wont this be egg ( and cold grits) on the face of OBAMA and his henchmen who have loaded this onto every other economy in the world. Can you see governments willing to work with the US on something like this again? NOT!!!
We all will have to watch this carefully; who knows, they may be more ready to go than we are here in Canada….. Many thanks for bringing this to our attention ASAP.
With regard to RO and the FATCA suit, they are nowhere near as ready as we are. They haven’t even set up plaintiffs yet. The suit has not been filed there. We have already received the Statement of Defence. And are starting the discovery phase.
Legal processes take time. It will be years before this is finished at the Supreme Court. We cannot expect the instant gratification we’ve become accustomed to with internet, etc.
If we expect too much too soon, people will become discouraged which will not be helpful. Remember how we all repeated this phrase when we started? This is a marathon, not a sprint. Patience and perseverance are crucial, as is a positive attitude!
Rock On !
@Triciamoon
But wasn’t there something about putting a halt to proceedings once the suit contested the constitutionality?
@Polly – can you explain what you mean? Do you mean if FATCA is determined to be unconstitutional in the US that we here in Canada will stop our court proceedings?
First, I doubt that the US suit will be resolved before ours is and there’s no guarantee of the outcome we desire, and second, we are fighting the IGA in Canada to stop this government (and all future ones) from allowing their citizens to be thrown to whichever wolves come knocking.
Finding the IGA unconstitutional in Canada will not only set a precedent that other countries can use against their IGAs, but will make it impossible for the Canadian government to trample the rights of their own citizens at the behest of foreign governments in future.
@GwEvil
I wonder if it is legally possible to request the court to put some kind of “hold” on the IGA while the court is deciding about its constitutionality? That would put a major monkey wrench into FATCA implementation.
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@FromTheWilderness – that would be an injunction and would be great, I’d love that! But that would cost us a lot more money and could end up not being granted.