[We now have a NEW POST taking us up to February 1, 2015. This post will be retired from service.]
THE AUTUMN 2014 UPDATE
Dear Donors,
Together, we reached our goal of $100,000 to pay the November 1 legal bill 11 days ahead of schedule!
Thank you Canadian donors from coast to coast and our friends from around the world for your generosity, support and determination — and especially for not being afraid.
The name of our non-profit corporation is the “Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty.”
We were very deliberate in including in our name the word “sovereignty”, which forms a cornerstone of our Claims against the Government of Canada.
Canada and dozens of other countries throughout the world gave into a bully because their “leaders” were afraid of harm caused by a trading “partner” — and they gave their sovereignties away.
Help us convince by example the Leaders and Governments of all countries worldwide that they should return their sovereignties back to their Peoples.
Please continue to support our lawsuit.
“Alone we can do so little. Together we can do so much.” (Helen Keller)
— Plaintiffs Ginny and Gwen, and the ADCS-ADSC team
Chers donateurs,
Ensemble, nous avons atteint notre but d’amasser 100 000 $ pour payer notre facture légale du 1er novembre 11 jours d’avance !
Un gros merci à vous, donateurs canadiens, et à nos amis de tous les coins du monde pour votre grande générosité, soutien et détermination. Et surtout pour votre courage.
Le nom de notre organisme sans but lucratif est « l’Alliance pour la défense de la souveraineté canadienne ».
Nous avons choisi délibérément le mot « souveraineté » puisqu’il constitue la base fondamentale de nos revendications envers le gouvernement du Canada.
Le Canada et des dizaines d’autres pays se sont pliés devant l’intimidation des États-Unis parce que leurs « leaders » ont eu peur des menaces de notre « partenaire » commercial. Ils ont donc vendu leur souveraineté à rabais.
Aidez-nous à convaincre les dirigeants et les gouvernements de tous ces pays qu’ils se doivent de remettre leur souveraineté à leurs peuples.
S’il vous plaît, continuez à soutenir notre cause.
« Seuls, nous pouvons faire si peu. Ensemble, nous pouvons faire beaucoup. » (Helen Keller)
— Ginny, Gwen et toute l’équipe de l’ADCS-ADSC
DONATE to www.adcs-adsc.ca (ADSC en français).
@ Dash,
I feel the exact opposite. Sure we are getting scrutiny from the government, but I bet that we get the scrutiny regardless because of the nature of the lawsuit. It would just be fantastic if we were able to get some of our money back to fight against the beast that is using our money to defend itself.
Oh well.
Cheers.
I meant to ask how many unique contributions have we had. I think it would be an interesting number to see how small of a group is taking on such a huge organization.
CHeers.
You’re absolutely correct, Dash. There are news articles / commentary on why we wouldn’t want to be in the charitable organization category, this one in August: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/08/27/andrew-coyne-preferred-tax-status-corrupts-the-definition-of-charity-and-should-be-abolished/.
We must continue to donate to ADCS-ADSC because it is the right thing to do to fight this injustice.
krackerjack,
Thank you for sharing with ADCS-ADSC the savings on your renunciation fee (even without a charitable receipt). Great idea and generosity.
Your question on contributions would be of interest to have broken down and reported. I do know there have been many repeat committed donors, as their budgets allow.
(…and, you’re right, getting a receipt for a donation might help in getting donations, but could cause much red tape for our organization and scrutiny of our donors.)
@all,
I’ve been struggling with just what mode to use to contribute to ADCS. It’s ridiculous that even doing
this seems to involve some fear about what is the “safest” or least intrusive manner to do so. Not sure I
want to write a cheque because of the banks here, don’t like the idea of sending money directly through
the mail, so I thought about using a credit card, but when I looked at doing this on the ADCS site I
hesitated because of Paypal. On the ADCS site it says you don’t have to already HAVE a Paypal account to donate, but I noticed there is a place where it asks you to log in if you already have a Paypal
account. So my question is if I click on one of the preset donation amounts and fill in the info for the credit card, does doing this then create a Paypal account? And if so, does Paypal ask for further info
such as a tax id number or else some indication that you are not a U.S. resident/U.S. citizen if you don’t
have/input a tax id number? Sorry if I sound paranoid, but I seem to remember reading somewhere awhile ago that Paypal was going to ask for this at some point for reporting to the IRS.
@krackerjack121
There are certainly arguments either way. I’ve had friends who’ve established tax deductible non profits–501 (c)(3)–in the USA and the fight to establish the tax deductible status takes a great deal of energy–not to mention money–out of the organization especially for the first couple of years. And that’s a tough time in an organization’s development to have such a drain on resources. Given that everything about dealing with the IRS seems to be tougher than with its Canadian counterpart, it might not be so bad in Canada. But it would still involve opening a fight with the gov’t on another front and would it be worth it? I’m not too sure it would be. Anyways it sounds like charitable status isn’t quite right for ADCS and the decision has been made.
It appears Canadian Thanksgiving coincided with a lot of ADCS-ADSC giving ($6000 in 3 days — WOW). A very happy coinky-dink I’d say. The November 1st goal is very close and I’m feeling the certainty of John Richardson that we’ll get there in time. It’s going to be sad to see the thermometer drop to zero as we go into the next funding phase (February 1st deadline) but if we just keep going one step after the other we’ll get there too. I expect we’ll be joined along the way by more people encountering their OMG moments. Surgite!
@Krackerjack et al.
It is a pity the Harper government pulled the plug on the Court Challenges Program of Canada, which was created to fund court challenges that advance language and equality rights under the constitution. Were it still funded, we wouldn’t have to raise money like this. For more on the Program, see Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Challenges_Program_of_Canada
@Krackerjack sent me this quote with his/her donation which I include below with permission:
“Cultivate a positive attitude, have the belief to accomplish your goals, have the courage to face your fears and then, the abundant life will be yours.”
Embee, I plan to make sure we don’t reach zero. Every two weeks, I will send something!
@dithering – It will not open up a PayPal account when you click and pay with your credit card. Also, you will not be asked for any more information than what you usually have to fill out for any other credit card payment online.
Dithering. The most reasonable way is to send a cheque in the mail. Dr. Kish can be trusted . Your privacy will not be compromised.
Another donation tonight. Paypal is simple and if NSA in the States finds out, I do not care!
Like krackerjack might have promised, I think I have donated most of the difference between the new 2350 fee and the old 450 fee. Well, the math does not totally add up, need a couple more donations. It is a huge difference, why does the USA erect a new Berlin Wall?
Mr Moody let’s simply FATCA for you.
1. Is Canada on the US’ behest assisting with CBT by placing a burden on one resident Canadian citizen another one doesn’t have to bear by supplying the US with private financial data? Answer: YES
FATCA isn’t complex. The above issue no.1 is all someone really needs to know. The rest doesn’t matter.
Mr Moody why don’t you donate some of your ‘FATCA’ profits to the fund and cut off your nose despite your face?
@Dithering, and others
A some point, you have to stand up for your own rights and interests. You can’t do that from a position of utter anonymity. Your bank cannot take any action against you because you donate to a legitimate Canadian non-profit organization. It is your sovereign right to do so.
At a certain juncture your have to weight the risk of taking a stand vs. the risk of remaining powerless – and being utterly anonymous is a weak position if you’re so frightened that you can’t spend your own money to support a very valid and lawful cause.
Rosa Parks had sit at the front of the bus in person. Think about the risks taken by people in the civil rights movement, the pro-democracy protests in Honk Kong, the gay rights movement.
Right now – today – Joe Arvay is arguing a controversial case before the Supreme Court: physician-assisted dying. That case would not be possible without Kay Carter and Gloria Taylor, terminally ill people who stepped forward to demand their voices be heard.
What are the risks of donating to ADCS – compared to their situation?
The campaign against US-born Canadians is a campaign of fear.
The antidote is audacity.
Launching the ADCS action is audacious; Blaze testifying before the Finance Committee was audacious. Raising enough money to hire Joe Arvay is audacious.
The Harper Conservatives got us into this mess by capitulation – they were too cowardly (or just too cynical) to protect the sovereign interests of their own citizens. Their actions are the result of cowardice; the ADCS legal suit is the result of courage and audacity.
Place your bets…
“The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.”
— Tacitus
It’s wonderful to see the amount needed drop so quickly! Another deadline in February will be here soon. I’m thinking I’ll be asking for donations as a Christmas gift this year.
Hear, here, Wondering!
Those ole gross page views keep on ticking upwards ! Add the prior site’s 600,000 and we are just about at the 13 million mark !
Love to see the dollar balance needed dropping like a stone … or better imagery yet … the amount contributed rising like a cork in a flood. Maybe the next thermometer should start with the amounts paid over to the Arvay team dropping through a tap into a bulb below from the pool already contributed … AND THE BALANCE STILL ACCUMULATING in the upper bulb to meet the next target. Maybe this should be adjusted to include ALL contributions to date (even the initial Legal Opinion Cost gathering). Or maybe …. labels appearing pointing to the Payment for the Legal Opinion then a second pointing to the Nov 1 Payment to the Arvay team whilst the thermometer just gets taller at the top heading for the next target in February …. so as to always show a rising motion and never a falling one. Here I am playing at being a graphic Artist … properly the province of GWEvil I think … please dont laugh too loudly at me … I am already laughing at myself.
@Wondering – thank you for the quote “The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.” — Tacitus …….. and Thank you for the reminder of the Righteous Bravery of Rosa Parks.
@Kathy – lovely idea for Christmas gifts !
There is much to be said for the peaceful power of the people en masse when a community is faced by misguided tyrannical Government policies. I suppose that is the conservative hippy (say what ?) in me talking there.
Someone had been wondering how many days each year would be turkey (bird) days … It occurs to me that that depends on how many days per year the White House or other Official Residence of a World Leader is occupied by a Turkey (same word … different sense). Funny how Harper sounds so like Harpy … and Cameron so like Come’ndRun … well … I will leave you Yanks, former Yanks and other seekers of Righteousness to come up with your own plays on the name Obama should you so desire …. hmmm … maybe not as this society is non partisan.
Peace … and never forget to laugh even in the greatest sorrow. A month ago my father (age 90) was recovering from surgery to pin a broken bone in his hip; urologist comes along to check him out before he is released from the hospital … rolls him to one side and before he knew what was going on had pushed a finger up his derriere to check out the prostate … I will never forget my father’s reaction …. a look of wide eyed astonishment and a dry comment “Well … that was important.” I could hear the unspoken “NOT” loud and clear ! Every time I think of the event it makes me collapse with laughter and tears !
So FATCA is good for us … eh ? NOT ! More like a pointless reaming of the entire world in my view. And this is not funny ha ha though it is funny peculiar.
One love … and that is not a tennis score.
@Wondering: Testifying before the House of Commons Finance Committee representing the voice of one million Canadians was an honour.
What is disappointing is the fact most of those one million Canadians have not yet donated even a loonie to this assault on our rights and our integrity. Some don’t know yet. A few do not care.
Some are making a difference by donating– including one person sending her OAS cheque every month.
The truly brave souls are Gwen and Ginny who are risking everything by being plaintiffs for all of us. We in turn need to support them in whatever way we can.
@Dithering and others who may be dithering: We need you in this fight. Please take the leap and help. The easiest, fastest and most effective way now is to donate to ADCS. If you do not want to personally make the donation, give the cash to someone else to donate for you. One person who lives in my community gave me cash. I then used an electronic transfer for that person. There are numerous ways and strategies you can use.
To all who have donated, thank you. It is fabulous to see the thermometer rising quickly in the final days. Even better will be if we exceed the $100,000 due on November 1 so we have some funds for the next stage before we even begin that drive.
I am certain governments on both sides of the border are monitoring this to see if we will really be able to challenge them. We need to show them we can!
@nervousinvestor, I like your suggestion to;
“… always show a rising motion and never a falling one”
@ADCS team, thank you for the daily updates – it raises my spirits to see the inexorable progress towards the goal.
@all;
it is logical, as Blaze points out, that there are other eyes watching the progress here; “…….I am certain governments on both sides of the border are monitoring this to see if we will really be able to challenge them. We need to show them we can!”
One of the tactics the Canadian government will be hoping to use is to outspend us – to pit our own Canadian taxpayer revenues against ordinary people fighting for their legal and human rights. And the US government is no doubt cheering them on – if not issuing regular instructions.
In this way is justice threatened by both the US and the Canadian governments – both arrayed against what is just, ethical, fair and rational, and using our own taxpayer money to betray us.
We should not let them win this by such a cowardly and twisted tactic. If the Canadian government had right on its side, it should have been willing to make its case and had the FATCA IGA debated in our Parliament – not hidden in an omnibus bill and without full public disclosure and scrutiny. Instead, it actively ASSISTS a foreign country – the US – make a mockery of Canadian sovereignty, laws, citizenship and democracy.
Refuse to be ruled extraterritorially by the US on Canadian soil via the Harper government proxy.
Refuse to accept being governed by the Canadian bank lobby and US extortion. Refuse to be governed by the compliance industrial complex and their self serving demands that we surrender, become ‘rightminded’ and embrace the US FATCA predator.
Some persons are nervous about donating. Consider buying a money order at Canada Post with cash and mailing that. Sign your name illegibly.
I run some websites that get considerable search engine traffic in U.S.A. and some in Canada. On one website, I added a free plug for the ADCS-ADSC.CA website. They need to produce creative banners that people can download and use on websites to spread the word.
I think we can also expect Canadian Bankers Association to find a way to bring their virtually unlimited resources to help the government fight Canadian taxpayers and Loyal Canadian customers in court.
We need to stand up to all of them.
Thanks so much to our friends in Canada and around the world who have already donated.
For those who have been lurking, learning and receiving support from Brock and Maple Sandbox, but who have not yet donated, I implore you. Please help. Donate now.
Mr. Moody is a kettle calling the pot black. He is not reporting the situation about FATCA objectively at all. He calls the FATCA “clever” and the European FATCA-like legislation “clever”. He is entitled to his opinion, but FATCA doesn’t pass the test for “clever”. It is anything but clever. It is beyond stupid. It is so terrifying, onerous, difficult and expensive to comply with, and punitive if you get it wrong, they’ve now made U.S. citizenship the very worst citizenship (outside the U.S.) to retain on the planet. The surge in renunciations confirms this.
And then Moody has the nerve to say that since the U.S. has had reporting requirements [since the 70s], this is “nothing new” and that “FATCA is here to stay”. This is silly. There is plenty that is new. The U.S. has greatly redefined and greatly broadened the tax base of who is required to pay taxes. Not only does this include a lot of people who never were considered “US persons” who’d supposedly lost citizenship when becoming Canadians years ago, it also includes anyone with a mere ten per cent business ownership. Given the compliance of the banks to enforce the reporting or suffer newer, more aggressive penalties, the U.S. now made it impossible for their people to have a bank account in many countries, to own mutual funds anywhere, or to own, partly own, or sign cheques of a business held abroad. AND in this digital age, people have good reason to fear the hacking or leaking of their private information that the I.R.S. frankly has no business to begin with, and is likely to abuse because they see us all as criminals anyway.
FATCA is so problematic that if argued well (as Mr. Arvay can) before the Supreme Court in Canada, I don’t see how it is here to stay.