[We now have a NEW POST taking us up to February 1, 2015. This post will be retired from service.]
THE AUTUMN 2014 UPDATE
Dear Donors,
Together, we reached our goal of $100,000 to pay the November 1 legal bill 11 days ahead of schedule!
Thank you Canadian donors from coast to coast and our friends from around the world for your generosity, support and determination — and especially for not being afraid.
The name of our non-profit corporation is the “Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty.”
We were very deliberate in including in our name the word “sovereignty”, which forms a cornerstone of our Claims against the Government of Canada.
Canada and dozens of other countries throughout the world gave into a bully because their “leaders” were afraid of harm caused by a trading “partner” — and they gave their sovereignties away.
Help us convince by example the Leaders and Governments of all countries worldwide that they should return their sovereignties back to their Peoples.
Please continue to support our lawsuit.
“Alone we can do so little. Together we can do so much.” (Helen Keller)
— Plaintiffs Ginny and Gwen, and the ADCS-ADSC team
Chers donateurs,
Ensemble, nous avons atteint notre but d’amasser 100 000 $ pour payer notre facture légale du 1er novembre 11 jours d’avance !
Un gros merci à vous, donateurs canadiens, et à nos amis de tous les coins du monde pour votre grande générosité, soutien et détermination. Et surtout pour votre courage.
Le nom de notre organisme sans but lucratif est « l’Alliance pour la défense de la souveraineté canadienne ».
Nous avons choisi délibérément le mot « souveraineté » puisqu’il constitue la base fondamentale de nos revendications envers le gouvernement du Canada.
Le Canada et des dizaines d’autres pays se sont pliés devant l’intimidation des États-Unis parce que leurs « leaders » ont eu peur des menaces de notre « partenaire » commercial. Ils ont donc vendu leur souveraineté à rabais.
Aidez-nous à convaincre les dirigeants et les gouvernements de tous ces pays qu’ils se doivent de remettre leur souveraineté à leurs peuples.
S’il vous plaît, continuez à soutenir notre cause.
« Seuls, nous pouvons faire si peu. Ensemble, nous pouvons faire beaucoup. » (Helen Keller)
— Ginny, Gwen et toute l’équipe de l’ADCS-ADSC
DONATE to www.adcs-adsc.ca (ADSC en français).
I am trying to determine the best / safest way to donate. If I write a cheque on my bank account to the ‘Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty’, is there anyway it can be traced back to me being a U.S. person?
@Sasha, I don’t see how it could. This is a CANADIAN Charter challenge. There is nothing to indicate to anyone on checks that a U.S. person donated to this challenge.
@Sasha, you can also use a money order from Canada Post or the equivalent if you are outside Canada.
My donation is going out tomorrow by Canada Post.
Check this out:
http://online.wsj.com/articles/kuenzi-american-expats-tax-nightmare-1404924705
Moderator may we have:
Listing of articles, such as on: http://americansabroad.org/news-and-events/media-articles/
May we also have page of useful links such as Maple Sandbox ADSC. I suggest americansabroad.
Hi Sasha,
I don’t know where you are located so some of these ideas may not apply but here goes.
1) If you are in Toronto, you might do what a couple of other people did; they contacted Stephen and dropped cash to him directly.
2) You could obtain a draft from any bank, credit union and for which there is no requirement for your name to be on it.
3) You could ask a friend to do it for you.
If anything else comes to mind, I will let you know. If you have any questions, please contact me at the ADCS site,
Best,
Tricia
@Sasha @Trisha. Other ideas…..dependent on where you live.
1.) You can send cash but maybe in several envelopes over several days.
2.) American Express Travelers cheques or some other brand.
But again your fear is noted and is not unreasonable. There is an honest fear of a single government and it is making people sick. Homelanders are afraid. Expats are afraid. “Nopats” (those with clinging nationality even w/CLN) are afraid.
The Kuenzi article referenced by JC looks really good but it’s behind a paywall. Anybody found another way to get this article?
@MuzzledNoMore,
Yes, it’s on Mr. Kuenzi’s firm’s website too. http://thunfinancial.com/american-expats-tax-nightmare/
My contribution for ADCS was just mailed. Hopefully I can send more as time goes on..
Yes and another way: “google” “GOOGLE NEWS”. In that search box, put in the title of the article and it will come up there. Sometimes Google News works; sometimes it doesn’t. Some paywalls must be more porous than others. (I can also send it to you by email, along with another article that references that WSJ Kuenzi article and the one referencing that). Note: David Kuenzi was a speaker at the RBT-CBT conference in Toronto earlier this year.
Thanks, EcstaticCanadian. Thanks everyone for the donations you are reaching so deep for and including as part of your other daily-living expenses. I hope you view your valuable contributions as I do — an investment in our futures, the futures of our children, the future of our countries as sovereign (and to not have this set a precedent for other countries to be able to do the same). Your continued generosity and support are so appreciated as we get closer to a goal of litigation, a challenge to our rights having been breached. It is the only way we may be heard.
Canadians:
I continue to receive requests from readers of the Brock and Sandbox posts who are willing to be plaintiffs in the Canadian lawsuit.
I insisted in the post above that all plaintiffs must be angry.
You might not be surprised to know that all are in fact very angry — No exceptions.
—More donations and angry plaintiffs, quickly please.
@George
I would never send cash… I had problems getting my regular mail via postal… Someone would send me something… tell me about it… so I can watch for it… I never rec’d it…
Here is an idea if ADSC is interested in… If the funds are being deposited in a known bank in Canada.. see if ADSC is willing to share the account number… People can directly go to the bank & deposit cash… anonymously… just sign it.. whatever… make up a name or use the name brock…. money can be deposited but it won’t be able to be withdrawn… I have used this method a few times… Out of the country… purchase a money order or use their credit card… have someone who is not tainted & you trust… purchase the money order or use the credit card for you then send it… If u still have family in Canada that u trust… untainted… have them send funds to ADSC then u can re-pay them.
There are lots of way of doing it… Not one person should be afraid to donate… it may not help us in our lifetime… but it will help our future generations… if the US & our own gov’t has labelled us as 2nd class… its time to fight for our place… with a hard slap. I refuse to allow this taint to steal my funds & future… nor will I allow this sword to hang over my childrens’ head.
We have all worked hard & saved… deliver a hard slap & kick in the butt to the gov’t… make sure the foot up their butts reminds them who they are to rep… their citizens… not a foreign gov’t.
Stop the fear… the few dollars u can afford is better then no money at all to stop this nonsense of legal theft. What next… the US decides at a whim… oh… lets change things…. tell our gov’t to withdraw the funds at their will… they do it cause they figure we won’t fight back?? My funds are for my family… I saved every dime & went without so I can ensure my familys’ future… comfortable & not have to worry about their next meal… like I did growing up… Time to get a backbone & tell the gov’ts to all kiss our butts…
On another thread a Brocker wrote that the Nuremberg Laws were just that, they went through the formal process of a political process. They were not something put in force by a single mad man.
Calgary411 wrote elsewhere that in fact with this Charter Challenge we are becoming part of the history and fabric of the nation of Canada. This is history and it will be remembered, the actions that we are helping to make through the Courts may some day prove to be a precedent on something even more dire to the people of Canada.
The above two threads of thought just made me want to go WOW.
My favorite quote of all time and I think its applicable;
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
Edmund Burke
I contributed again subsequent to the July 4 appeal however I’m curious about the following constraint on the plaintiffs–which I believe is new:
“All plaintiffs must be angry.”
I’m not a believer that anger is ever a good idea–sometimes it is understandable and sometimes I indulge in it myself–but I’m of the viewpoint that it never leads to as good a result as one could get if one can master one’s emotions. I have myself personally sued the IRS in US Tax Court and won over a matter unrelated to FATCA. I didn’t sue from a position of anger–I sued from a position of having the law on my side.
So I’m quite curious why people feel this requirement is necessary. Like I say sometimes some anger is understandable but it is always better, all things being equal, if anger can be mastered. Suggesting that anger is actually preferable is therefore quite confusing for me.
@George
Thanks for the hat tip; I wrote about the bureaucratic process of the Nuremberg laws here:
http://isaacbrocksociety.ca/2014/06/01/its-time/comment-page-26/#comment-2206845
When I listened to that video of the FinanceCommittee – and all the weasel words used to avoid any discussion of morality, sovereignty or harmful consequence – I was reminded of a terrific film about the Wannsee Conference (the fateful 1942 meeting of Nazi officials to plan the “Final Solution”).
The 2001 film “Conspiracy” is based on the actual transcripts. It’s chilling to hear how the debasement of language enables people to calmly plan the dehumanization and destruction of other human lives as a cold bureaucratic process.
The film was a critical success, winning Kenneth Branagh an Emmy award. Well worth watching – and still all too relevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_%282001_film%29
Sorry if some of this commentary would seem more at home on the History Channel.
The Charter Challenge is history in the making.
We can’t separate who we are from the historical forces acting upon us; we can however choose how we will respond and that is the essence of freedom.
Viktor Frankl developed these insights while struggling to survive in a concentration camp:
“An abnormal reaction to an abnormal situation is normal behavior.”
“Forces beyond your control can take away everything you possess except one thing, your freedom to choose how you will respond to the situation.”
“Between stimulus and response, there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom.”
― Viktor E. Frankl, “Man’s Search for Meaning”
@ Dash 1729
re. “All plaintiffs must be angry.”
Perhaps it is another way of saying “All plaintiffs must be highly motivated.”
@StephenKish
“You might not be surprised to know that all are in fact very angry — No exceptions.”
I’m not surprised but I think you are limiting yourselves unnecessarily via this constraint. FATCA affects at least 1,000,000 Canadians but only 20 or so seem to be very angry–and most of them post regularly on here. Why not open it up to the other 999,980 people who might recognize FATCA as an injustice but haven’t been personally affected enough to become “very angry”? Some of them might be in a position to add value to the lawsuit despite not being as angry.
I sent cash. I can only hope it arrived.
@ Dash1729
I think I could eventually take my emotions down a notch from “outright anger” to “righteous indignation” but that’s about the best I could muster. Anger is a valid motivator and I’m certain Joe Arvay will have this controlled appropriately by the time the plaintiff’s are “heard” in the first court appeal.
@ Wondering
This really isn’t about WW2 and all the propaganda the “victors” created afterwards to divert attention from their own war crimes. We need to stay focused on the present and in particular raising enough funds for the first leg of the long race to justice for the victims of the Harper government’s capitulation to FATCA.
@Sid
“All plaintiffs must be highly motivated.”
Yes they need to be highly motivated. Anger can certainly be a good motivator but I’d like to think there are other ways of being motivated.
@Dash1729 – First of all I dispute your numbers, but, be that as it may, the angry ones are the ones willing to have their information made public in a legal challenge. Unless you are really angry, you wouldn’t do it. Afraid won’t cut it, nor will mildly annoyed. The first group won’t be willing to come forward for fear of reprisals and the second group will comply and renounce (or not).
The Famous Five fought for the rights of all women in Canada. I am sure the majority of women wanted their fundamental human rights recognized but were either too afraid to come forward or they were complacent about it. The five angry women represented ALL women in Canada.
The angry litigants who are willing to put themselves in harms way for the sake of ALL ‘US persons’ will be representing everyone, but they really must be angry enough about the insane laws on either side of the border or they wouldn’t do something so rash as to take on Goliath.
Anger is a very powerful emotion and can lift a person out of life’s most desperate situations. There are times in life when anger is the only solution to a problem because extreme anger allows you to overcome your fear. Fear is what holds most people back from accomplishing many things in life. I think it is fair to say that alot of us (myself included) are fearful of revealing our true identities because we are dealing with a powerful beast. Only the most angry among us will be able to fight this fight in the open. To those people I say thank you. I’m glad you are ready to fight and I will cheer you on and donate financially to this cause but you are the true heroes.
I’m going to give a very personal example of how anger allowed me to not only overcome my adversaries but to reclaim my life and my family. As a child I had been molested in my own home (an adult cousin who lived with my family sexually abused me). I told my mother about it and she did nothing. When I threatened to tell my father about it she said your father will kill him and then go to jail and it will all be your fault. I loved my father so I kept quiet.
In my teen years I ran away from home and did not return until I was almost 30 years old. I missed many members of my family but my fear kept me from reclaiming them. I come from a culture that often blames the victim who has been sexually abused. It took me almost 15 years to get outwardly angry enough, prior to that I had turned my anger inward which led to a deep clinical depression. That’s what depression is, it’s anger turned against yourself instead of against your oppressors.
After many years of therapy I finally got mad enough to reach out and reclaim my family. As I expected there were people who wanted me to stay hidden and quiet about the abuse I had suffered. My mother was the loudest voice telling me to keep quiet while at the same time denying she ever knew about the abuse.
My anger would no longer allow me to remain quiet. Because of the therapy I had received I no longer felt ashamed or that I was to blame for the abuse I suffered as a child. I contacted all of my extended family members and explained to them what had happened to me. I felt no shame and my oppressors could see that and it frightened them.
Within 30 days of my return the person who sexually abused me packed up his family, sold his house and left the country! My victory came quickly once I became so angry that even fear would not hold me back.
Dash,
The plaintiffs will be stepping into the boxing ring with the Canadian government and by doing so will be directly exposing themselves to the wrath of the biggest bully on this planet, the US government. A bully that is so powerful that it routinely puts entire countries on their knees.
Some, if not all, of the plaintiffs will be very exposed and putting their complete economic existences on the table with nowhere to turn once the battle begins.
Under such circumstances, being genuinely angry is beneficial. Being calm and peaceful while trying to argue that one’s economic survival is at stake could come across as being less than real.
More important however, is that any plaintiff who is not genuinely pissed off and 100% committed to the fight may get weak in the knees once they realise what they are really up against. I fully expect the US government to use all kinds of dirty tricks to intimidate or entice the plaintiffs into backing off. A lot of very powerful interests are behind making FATCA work.
Therefore, I agree with Stephen, genuinely angry plaintiffs are needed.