[We now have a NEW POST taking us up to February 1, 2015. This post will be retired from service.]
THE AUTUMN 2014 UPDATE
Dear Donors,
Together, we reached our goal of $100,000 to pay the November 1 legal bill 11 days ahead of schedule!
Thank you Canadian donors from coast to coast and our friends from around the world for your generosity, support and determination — and especially for not being afraid.
The name of our non-profit corporation is the “Alliance for the Defence of Canadian Sovereignty.”
We were very deliberate in including in our name the word “sovereignty”, which forms a cornerstone of our Claims against the Government of Canada.
Canada and dozens of other countries throughout the world gave into a bully because their “leaders” were afraid of harm caused by a trading “partner” — and they gave their sovereignties away.
Help us convince by example the Leaders and Governments of all countries worldwide that they should return their sovereignties back to their Peoples.
Please continue to support our lawsuit.
“Alone we can do so little. Together we can do so much.” (Helen Keller)
— Plaintiffs Ginny and Gwen, and the ADCS-ADSC team
Chers donateurs,
Ensemble, nous avons atteint notre but d’amasser 100 000 $ pour payer notre facture légale du 1er novembre 11 jours d’avance !
Un gros merci à vous, donateurs canadiens, et à nos amis de tous les coins du monde pour votre grande générosité, soutien et détermination. Et surtout pour votre courage.
Le nom de notre organisme sans but lucratif est « l’Alliance pour la défense de la souveraineté canadienne ».
Nous avons choisi délibérément le mot « souveraineté » puisqu’il constitue la base fondamentale de nos revendications envers le gouvernement du Canada.
Le Canada et des dizaines d’autres pays se sont pliés devant l’intimidation des États-Unis parce que leurs « leaders » ont eu peur des menaces de notre « partenaire » commercial. Ils ont donc vendu leur souveraineté à rabais.
Aidez-nous à convaincre les dirigeants et les gouvernements de tous ces pays qu’ils se doivent de remettre leur souveraineté à leurs peuples.
S’il vous plaît, continuez à soutenir notre cause.
« Seuls, nous pouvons faire si peu. Ensemble, nous pouvons faire beaucoup. » (Helen Keller)
— Ginny, Gwen et toute l’équipe de l’ADCS-ADSC
DONATE to www.adcs-adsc.ca (ADSC en français).
Stephen, those Twigs will soon be a Tree. My thanks too to that Canadian Twig family!
Thank you to the Twig Family for their generous donations. Also thank you to all of our members for contributing as well. It is hard for a lot of us who are retired and live on strings or fumes but so well worth the support with a donation to this most important challenge. I send up a daily prayer that our rights and justice will prevail and we will no longer be considered tax cheats or much worse criminals for doing absolutely nothing to deserve such slander. There is strength in numbers!
@Canada411 – My thought about WhiteKat’s “troll”: useful to know what the uninformed masses think, but this battle will not be won by winning over the uninformed mass of US voters. Obviously, if that could efficiently be done, I’d be all in favour of it, but I think we all know that it is practically impossible to conquer US public opinion on an issue as disconnected from their world view as this one is. For me, the correct strategy is that of the Swiss.
The Swiss Army is organized on the principle that they are not strong enough to take on anyone and win in an offensive war. Rather, the Swiss only aim to make the task of a foreign power attempting to conquer them to be so painful and the gains so “not worth it” as to dissuade them from trying in the first place or causing them to retreat if they should attempt invasion.
By analogy, our most effective line of attack (which is actually defence) is to make the cost of pursuit unpleasant if not prohibitive. The IRS, Reed/Schumer’s of this world have a positive obsession with the “wealthy tax cheat”. I have no idea how many of them there are, how justified the fear of their “cheating” is etc. I rather suspect that there is far more tax evasion coming from the ranks of organized crime and other black-marketeers. The statistical fact of an overwhelming preponderance of US income tax collections coming from the top 10% suggests that their tax alleged endemic tax evasion is singularly unsuccessful by and large. Not my issue, however. We can use this obsession of the policy-makers in the US to our advantage much the way a smaller person uses the momentum of the attacker to throw him or her. Let them keep their eye on the wealthy tax cheat – their obsession is their weakness, not ours. Heck, if the tax cheats didn’t exist, we’d frankly have to create them! When FATCA and CBT run into a brick wall of court and pragmatic resistance from little people they never set out to attack (but didn’t take any care to avoid), they will be up against a choice: abandon the hunt for tax cheats or let the minnows go and redouble efforts! As I’ve said before, the Charter Challenge offers that realistic prospect:
FATCA will simply not be able to work and the US will face the prospect of having to declare economic war on an ally for something they are powerless to change (basic human rights). The costs to the US economy would be very real. Cutting off their nose to spite their face will not appear that attractive. The rational answer will be to make the best of it – same country exemption from FATCA will get accepted in practice and soon in law. That would be an unavoidable outcome of an adverse Charter ruling in Canada. All of the other countries are going to have MFN’s (and will demand one if they don’t – the IGA’s have a one year exit clause). That is only step one of course. CBT is the real problem. The incentive to ditch it will be joining OECD/GATCA in going after money hidden abroad. To do so, they will need to harmonize their regime and CBT causes them to stand out like a sore thumb. THIS will be the price to be paid to continue the tax-cheat jihad over the long run. The electorate doesn’t understand CBT and will thus have little patience for it standing in the way of getting the bogeyman tax cheat in Switzerland. They will cheer anything that appears to make the chances of winning the “war on tax cheats” more likely. If letting non-resident widows and orphans out of the tax system is the price, nobody will care.
A long road and outcome far from certain to be sure, but that, to me, is the way the mouse can steer the elephant to do what it should do anyway (were its politics semi-rational).
This is like the old days of the Jerry Lewis Telethon. I remember as a young lad staying up late at night to see how much money was raised.
Fond memories of the USA that is long gone into the dust of time……
The ADCS challenge makes it to a mention in Medicine Hat:
‘U.S. expats feel they’ve been sold out by Canada’
By Medicine Hat News Opinon on July 7, 2014
Tim Harper writes on national affairs for Torstar Syndication Services
“…………. A court challenge is being prepared that will likely focus on Ottawa’s willing move to breach the privacy of its own citizens and discriminate against citizens based on their ethnic origin…”
http://medicinehatnews.com/commentary/opinions/2014/07/07/us-expats-feel-theyve-been-sold-out-by-canada/
Caveat; I post this here because it mentions the ADCS, but I don’t agree with the characterization of the author that this is quixotic, or that the opposition to FATCA by the NDP was ‘meek’. Anyone who watched the NDP and Green opposition in Parliament, and the NDP in the Standing Committee on Finance on Part 5 of the Omnibus bill C-31 can watch Green Party leader MP May, and NDP Opposition MPs in their articulate and sharp skewering of FATCA.
http://youtu.be/fT2nnMFgUFk
http://youtu.be/ANqVaEpRi_4
http://youtu.be/T8NjUpngfxE
http://youtu.be/21RpsGCG6jI
http://youtu.be/sZEAj_4pK0M
http://youtu.be/ANqVaEpRi_4
And read some of the exchanges here:
http://openparliament.ca/search/?q=fatca
@ bubblebustin
I’m not all that persuasive. I just think Mr. Em(Bee) is grateful to have made it through relinquishment and final tax filing. Although “final” can only be tentative since the IRS never actually acknowledges those 8854s — meanies that they are. (I think they spent their childhoods pulling wings off flies and spinning cats by their tails.) And so the long wait through the SOL begins.
Do we have journalistic freedom or controlled media?:
Minister of Finance to Make Announcement
http://www.fin.gc.ca/notices-avis14/2014-07-08-eng.asp
July 8, 2014
Minister of Finance to Make Announcement
Minister of Finance Joe Oliver will be making an announcement on Wednesday, July 9, 2014.
The announcement will take place at 9:00 a.m. in the Aboriginal Peoples Committee Room (160-S) of the Centre Block of Parliament, in Ottawa.
A media availability will follow.
Prior to the announcement, senior federal and provincial officials will be holding a briefing in room 160-S, at 8:00 a.m. This information briefing is for deep background purposes only, without attribution or source indication. Journalists will be required to sign an undertaking prior to attending the briefing.
I didn’t agree with that statement either, badger. The NDP MPs, Elizabeth May and Liberal MP Scott Brison were MY Member of Parliament representation. The NDP went out of their way to communicate with me, Murray Rankin getting information on how to contact me from Mike Sullivan and calling me at my home — we saw those two and Nathan Cullen in action many times.
There is NO MP representation for Calgary *US Persons* but we had the support of MPs from other provinces!! That said a lot to me.
Representation is what I expect from anyone who gets my next vote — a promise that my concerns will be listened to and my MP will be a voice for me and others in Canada’s Parliament.
I especially want an answer on what any candidate feels on whether or not our Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is in place to protect ALL Canadians.
Speaking of trolls, remember TomHunter? I He’s back, this time over at a WJ article and has this to say:
I think FATCA remains one of the most important and beneficial laws to have been passed in the last fifty years. The entire culture of tax evasion that had become standard practice among HNW individuals will become a thing of the past.
Especially important is the reality that other countries around the world are not fighting FATCA–they are emulating it. If you are a rich tax evader, your choices are come clean or move to Somalia.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/rich-chinese-in-reach-of-new-u-s-tax-law-fatca-1404404713
The opposition’s arguments weren’t weak, it’s more that the Cons belligerence was strong.
The Canadian federal government characterizes the FATCA IGA enabling legislation as constitutional – despite the letter they received from Peter Hogg, constitutional law expert, a copy of which was obtained via an Access to Information request by the Green Party and published online to alert Canadians; http://www.greenparty.ca/media-release/2013-03-13/implementation-fatca-likely-unconstitutional-says-leading-constitutional-ex
The Harper Government refused to provide any real answers or information other than heavily redacted documents in answer to Access to Information requests from Lynne at Maple Sandbox http://maplesandbox.ca/2014/finance-canada-244-pages-access-to-information/ and Order Paper questions posed to them in Parliament by MP Hsu http://maplesandbox.ca/2014/finallly-a-response-but-few-answers-to-ted-hsu-questions/ and MP Brison http://maplesandbox.ca/2013/order-paper-questions-from-liberal-scott-brison/ .
Please read this article (on another issue entirely), and substitute FATCA in the relevant places, re the utter lack of outside legal opinions, likely constitutional and Charter rights issues, and insistence of a Conservative Minister that it should go ahead regardless…..etc.:
Note that this issue (unrelated to FATCA) was not hidden inside an omnibus bill, and is currently under debate (as Bill C-36).
“Ottawa didn’t seek outside legal opinion”
Print, Globe, A4 News, Tues. July 8, 2014
Could not find an online version.
Ex.
“The federal government’s _______ bill is vulnerable to a constitutional challenge, a Canadian lawyer’s group says – a warning that comes as Justice Minister Peter MacKay revealed the government wrote the bill without outside legal opinions but expects it to pass muster……”
…”Much of the debate dealt with the bill’s constitutionality. Mr. Mackay… said he’d sought no outside legal opinions on the matter but repeated his insistence that the bill is Charter compliant………”
….” Mr. MacKay……… said a legal challenge is likely.”…………………
Basically, the Harper government is using this as its modus operandi, and abusing Canadian taxpayer funds and drawing on their monopoly of Department of Justice resources to stonewall the legitimate Charter and Constitutional objections on FATCA and other issues raised by the Canadian public – whether they be MPs, Canadian citizen voters, and legal permanent residents.
We will not let this stop us. Other constitutional challenges have been successfully upheld against this current government. They seek to exhaust their challengers and deter legitimate dissent and criticism by forcing Canadians to seek expensive remedy via the courts against the legislation that they are imposing without our consent.
Another reason to give generously in order to fund the first phase of the legal challenge being brought by the Alliance for the Defense of Canadian Sovereignty against US-FATCA enabling legislation imposed within Canada’s borders and jurisdiction.
@WhiteKat, people like Tom Hunter and the other troll at MJ are just myopic ugly Americans who have zero idea how FATCA is perceived outside their own borders nor do they care. They are bullies and it’s okay for their country to be a bully to them. Nothing you say, whether low and middle income innocent families are harmed or not will change them. Sadly, they represent the population who believe everything spoon fed to them by the U.S. media about this issue and many others. They are the SAME people when they do travel if ever who wonder why Americans aren’t well loved all over the world. Fortunately, not all Americans are like them but, sadly the ones who tend to be willing to investigate an issue and stand on the side of right are silent and are not informed on this issue at all. They only know what they are told.
Maybe if we look at all of this in this context we might all get what is going on:
First, this is just my opinion.
There is a reason why the conservative government did what they did in signing the IGA with Treasury. ( and Allison Christians is right when she says they have no authority to sign anything. They are NOT Congress. And she is right when she says Admin instructed Treasury to do what is illegal and Congress has done nothing about it. With Harry Reid it never will.) Regardless, it IS illegal and this gave our government ample reason to carve into the IGA the very amendments the NDP, Liberal and Green MPs put forward to protect Canadian Citizens and Permanent Residents against this insidious encroachment of Canadian sovereignty and individual privacy and rights. REGARDLESS of knowing full well it was against the Charter. They had to know unless they are all complete morons ( and that could very well be arguable) But, I doubt it any more than the current US admin are morons. They all know exactly what they are doing.
We are being reshaped without our permission.
US border is being flooded deliberately. This is nation destroying. It will end the US as it was and is and it will blur the lines between Mexico and the USA. What about us? Right now, as I see it, they do not have to do anything overt because FATCA IS the covert destroying of our sovereignty and our border with the US.
The North America as dreamed by the UN and OECD and the ultimate culmination of NAFTA is now fait accompli.
Without borders there is no nation. We have been betrayed by those who we voted into power to do our bidding and secure our country and her sovereignty.
This needs to be fought in every way possible. And the sooner the better. I cannot believe that funds are still needed for the Charter Challenge. And I wonder WHERE in the world is James Bopp and his litigation in the US against FATCA. While we dither they act against us in every theatre.
I will be making my donation soon!
Sorry for the delay!
@WhiteKat:
Your post:
“WhiteKat, I really do not care about your Canadian issues with the IRS. What I do care about is that the wealthiest Americans are not paying their taxes and leaving ordinary Americans to pay the taxes they refuse to pay. The only thing I care about is the U.S. Government and the IRS getting those cheaters to pay up. Anything else is a mere distraction. All I have to say, and this is why I am rude, is that Canadian issues had better not create a disturbance that gets these Wealthy American Tax Cheaters off the hook or distract from the IRS getting them.”
It depends on which ‘wealthy Americans he is referring to. Jeff Imelt of GE owes 4 billion in taxes and gets a pass. Tell him to phone Jeff.
Solyndra LOST 500 million of Taxpayers money , going bankrupt. Tell him to phone Solyndra.
IRS targeted groups forming non profits to fight the 2012 election and the admin used IRS as a weapon against them. American taxpayers all. Tell him to phone the White House!
IRS employees owe over 34 billion dollars in taxes and have not paid and are not going to pay. Tell him to phone the IRS.
Obamacare favourite companies get a pass on Obamacare taxes and exchange costs via fiat. Tell him to call the White House!
According to stats, the top 1% of US earners pay over 80% of the taxes. Over 49 million are on food stamps. Over 92,100,000 people are out of work and cannot get work. Many millions are not able to get disability or any kind of social services for which they paid in THEIR taxes when they were working. Yet, they want 2.4 billion dollars for the flood of illegals pouring across the border. Tell him to phone the White House!! The IRS. The VA, The Social Security, Welfare. All being sucked dry by those who will not work and those who cannot work and those who are coming here , soon to be in the millions, who WILL be given for free what many millions worked for in the US and CANNOT get. Tell him to go to HE&&!! before he disparages Canadians who have had NOTHING to do with all this destruction and owe NO taxes in their country and are being coerced into paying for this nightmare in the US. Tell him to LOOK IN THE MIRROR!!
While searching for something else I came across Brock University in St. Catharines, ON. They are celebrating their Golden Anniversary this year. I wonder if anyone would have a connection to either the faculty or alumni — enough to ask support for ADCS? BTW, Brock U’s mascot is Boomer the Badger. I kid you not!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_University
http://brocku.ca/
Good comment, Furious AC.
I just ran across this in something else I was reading and it fits:
One more thing about Brock U. Their motto is “Surgite” which is Latin for “Push On”, supposedly the last words of Major-General Sir Isaac Brock. That’s something we can all take to heart.
Thanks, EmBee, resident poet and inspirer.
WhiteKat:
Better that 10 innocent people hang than that one guilty person goes free?
That poster better watch out what he/she wishes for. Just might get it — and find him/herself caught under the steamroller some day.
What comes after America?
http://www.infowars.com/what-comes-after-america/
I got the message “you sent a payment” from paypal. This my second.
I got the message “you sent a payment” from PayPal. I donated again tonight from British Columbia.
Just FYI The name “Tomhunter” likely refers to Canadian Tommy Hunter. This individual likely took this screen name for this reason as the Tommy Hunter Show was everywhere in the USA on TV. This person likely lives in the basement of his/her parents home and is online all day. They are likely on their parents computer as well. Just a poop disturber trying to get a rise out of people by spewing garbage.
“Surgite”. I like that, EmBee.