16 thoughts on “CBC Radio Ottawa “All In A Day” July 4th interview with Allison Christians and Kathleen”
One thing new I learned from this interview is if you hold dual citizenship / dual passports, you must use your American passport when entering the states. Duals beware!
I won’t ever travel on anything but my Canadian passport. I don’t care what those A…holes try to say. I do not recognize their so-called claim to me as a slave. If they don’t accept my Canadian passport to cross their border *IF* I was ever inclined to, eff them! I am Canadian!
I know your last name Kathleen, but I won’t tell – even on pain of death.
Nice work, both Kathleen and Allison!
@Bubblebustin,
LOL. I suspect that soon it won’t matter anyway.
Great interview, Allison and Kathleen. Alan Neal is to be commended too for coming up with just the right questions.
Quite courageous Allison and Kathleen.
The Canadian government, like just about all governments around the world were steamrolled into signing an IGA which makes FATCA the law of the country – in this case Canada.
The Canadian government could ameliorate the impact by pursuing a protocol to the Canadian-US tax treaty, exempting personal residence, retirement savings, insurance, mutual funds, exorbitant noncompliance penalties etc from U.S. taxation. The U.S. government may not like this approach. The Canadian government may make unilateral law – taking a page out of the FATCA implementation book – and then demand that the U.S. government respect Canada’s right for self determination.
Canada, may also pass some very specific anti discrimination law against Canadian financial institutions who discriminate against Canadians because of FATCA with some major penalties to back it up.
Thanks, Kathleen — and Allison. Such a good, understandable interview.
Thanks, Deckard for putting this on YouTube so we can hear it (from a CBC MP3 file).
Who Must File an FBAR
United States persons are required to file an FBAR if:
The United States person had a financial interest in or signature authority over at least one financial account located outside of the United States; and The aggregate value of all foreign financial accounts exceeded $10,000 at any time during the calendar year to be reported.]
Lots of ‘Accidental Americans’ like Kathleen live in Canada and have since they were infants or children. They need to be protected by Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms. They were betrayed by the Harper government signing an IGA with the US to override Canadian law with US law.
Success with the ADCS challenge would put the government in a bind and may prompt them to implement some work arounds. They could change the Tax Treaty and put in anti discrimination laws around FATCA.
If they really were to scratch the IGA then then that might attract the financial might of the USA and this may scare Canadian banks.
Another option for the Harper government is to address the injustices, sovereignty issues, and discrimination issues multilaterally through the G20. Harper might ask his buddy Tony Abbott to put it on the agenda for the upcoming G20 meeting in Brisbane.
Oh that was just GREAT. I especially liked the part about how her husband said this just can’t be because it would be insane ( YES- IT IS INSANE) – and then how it was supposed to be about US tax cheats, but seeing that they were going after nonresidents, it didn’t appear so. These were such an excellent points- besides all of the other basics. ALL of this was really good and I hope it helps to raise money for the challenge. I wish it could be repeated and repeated again in the media.
@JC, re;
“The Canadian government could ameliorate the impact by pursuing a protocol to the Canadian-US tax treaty, exempting personal residence, retirement savings, insurance, mutual funds, exorbitant noncompliance penalties etc from U.S. taxation. The U.S. government may not like this approach. The Canadian government may make unilateral law – taking a page out of the FATCA implementation book – and then demand that the U.S. government respect Canada’s right for self determination.”
Well, in that case, the Canadian government should tell the US that ‘Parliament has spoken’, and force the US to ‘respect’ Canadian laws, our Charter, our Constitution, sovereignty and autonomy as a nation, as much as the Harper Conservatives profess to ‘respect’ US laws and FATCA – as in the craven and traitorous comments by Conservative MP Mike Allen who had the nerve to say that Canadians had to obey (no matter what the cost) because : “At the end of the day, it is a U.S. law and it was brought in” and “Congress has spoken”. http://openparliament.ca/committees/finance/41-2/32/mike-allen-1/
May those words haunt them forever and ever. They are in the official record, and on video.
@badger- IGA and Canadian-US tax treaty are Canadian law. If the government thinks they can’t change the former they should change the later to make the ‘injustices’ illegal under Canadian laws that the U.S. should respect.
@Polly – yes good points.
@ Whitekat
You did a fantastic job in explaining the issue so clearly.Well done and a big THANK YOU!.
@JC
That would require the Canadian Government growing a pair. If you believe statements like this, things might actually go the other direction:
“I predict that the traditional extradition treaties and tax treaties regarding enforcement of another country’s tax laws will also change. People will be extradited for tax crimes and foreign governments will assist one another in enforcing each other’s tax laws in the signatory foreign country. Currently, the extradition treaties and tax treaties are not robust in these areas.”
@Bubblebustin The IBS is not about giving in, it is about pushing on. Revising the tax treaty is one angle. Then how best to develop the argument and refine the approach. If it does not work for this government then maybe for the next.
@Badger, you have a good point. We need Canadian law that we may then demand the respect from the U.S. for. We might need additional law to what we already have. Law specifically tailored to the threat to Canadian sovereignty posed by FATCA and CBT.
One thing new I learned from this interview is if you hold dual citizenship / dual passports, you must use your American passport when entering the states. Duals beware!
I won’t ever travel on anything but my Canadian passport. I don’t care what those A…holes try to say. I do not recognize their so-called claim to me as a slave. If they don’t accept my Canadian passport to cross their border *IF* I was ever inclined to, eff them! I am Canadian!
I know your last name Kathleen, but I won’t tell – even on pain of death.
Nice work, both Kathleen and Allison!
@Bubblebustin,
LOL. I suspect that soon it won’t matter anyway.
Great interview, Allison and Kathleen. Alan Neal is to be commended too for coming up with just the right questions.
Quite courageous Allison and Kathleen.
The Canadian government, like just about all governments around the world were steamrolled into signing an IGA which makes FATCA the law of the country – in this case Canada.
The Canadian government could ameliorate the impact by pursuing a protocol to the Canadian-US tax treaty, exempting personal residence, retirement savings, insurance, mutual funds, exorbitant noncompliance penalties etc from U.S. taxation. The U.S. government may not like this approach. The Canadian government may make unilateral law – taking a page out of the FATCA implementation book – and then demand that the U.S. government respect Canada’s right for self determination.
Canada, may also pass some very specific anti discrimination law against Canadian financial institutions who discriminate against Canadians because of FATCA with some major penalties to back it up.
Thanks, Kathleen — and Allison. Such a good, understandable interview.
Thanks, Deckard for putting this on YouTube so we can hear it (from a CBC MP3 file).
[One note on the FBAR / now, FINCEN114 rather than filing one for each account over $10,000 — it is the AGGREGATE or TOTAL over $10,000 of all of your financial accounts, highest balance of the year, USD.
http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Report-of-Foreign-Bank-and-Financial-Accounts-FBAR
Lots of ‘Accidental Americans’ like Kathleen live in Canada and have since they were infants or children. They need to be protected by Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms. They were betrayed by the Harper government signing an IGA with the US to override Canadian law with US law.
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@Calgary411 I am thinking how this may play out.
Success with the ADCS challenge would put the government in a bind and may prompt them to implement some work arounds. They could change the Tax Treaty and put in anti discrimination laws around FATCA.
If they really were to scratch the IGA then then that might attract the financial might of the USA and this may scare Canadian banks.
Another option for the Harper government is to address the injustices, sovereignty issues, and discrimination issues multilaterally through the G20. Harper might ask his buddy Tony Abbott to put it on the agenda for the upcoming G20 meeting in Brisbane.
Oh that was just GREAT. I especially liked the part about how her husband said this just can’t be because it would be insane ( YES- IT IS INSANE) – and then how it was supposed to be about US tax cheats, but seeing that they were going after nonresidents, it didn’t appear so. These were such an excellent points- besides all of the other basics. ALL of this was really good and I hope it helps to raise money for the challenge. I wish it could be repeated and repeated again in the media.
@JC, re;
“The Canadian government could ameliorate the impact by pursuing a protocol to the Canadian-US tax treaty, exempting personal residence, retirement savings, insurance, mutual funds, exorbitant noncompliance penalties etc from U.S. taxation. The U.S. government may not like this approach. The Canadian government may make unilateral law – taking a page out of the FATCA implementation book – and then demand that the U.S. government respect Canada’s right for self determination.”
Well, in that case, the Canadian government should tell the US that ‘Parliament has spoken’, and force the US to ‘respect’ Canadian laws, our Charter, our Constitution, sovereignty and autonomy as a nation, as much as the Harper Conservatives profess to ‘respect’ US laws and FATCA – as in the craven and traitorous comments by Conservative MP Mike Allen who had the nerve to say that Canadians had to obey (no matter what the cost) because : “At the end of the day, it is a U.S. law and it was brought in” and “Congress has spoken”. http://openparliament.ca/committees/finance/41-2/32/mike-allen-1/
May those words haunt them forever and ever. They are in the official record, and on video.
@badger- IGA and Canadian-US tax treaty are Canadian law. If the government thinks they can’t change the former they should change the later to make the ‘injustices’ illegal under Canadian laws that the U.S. should respect.
@Polly – yes good points.
@ Whitekat
You did a fantastic job in explaining the issue so clearly.Well done and a big THANK YOU!.
@JC
That would require the Canadian Government growing a pair. If you believe statements like this, things might actually go the other direction:
“I predict that the traditional extradition treaties and tax treaties regarding enforcement of another country’s tax laws will also change. People will be extradited for tax crimes and foreign governments will assist one another in enforcing each other’s tax laws in the signatory foreign country. Currently, the extradition treaties and tax treaties are not robust in these areas.”
http://blogs.angloinfo.com/us-tax/2014/07/14/newsweek-delves-into-fatca-and-the-growing-trend-in-expatriation/
@Bubblebustin The IBS is not about giving in, it is about pushing on. Revising the tax treaty is one angle. Then how best to develop the argument and refine the approach. If it does not work for this government then maybe for the next.
@Badger, you have a good point. We need Canadian law that we may then demand the respect from the U.S. for. We might need additional law to what we already have. Law specifically tailored to the threat to Canadian sovereignty posed by FATCA and CBT.
Great interview WhiteKat. Thank you.
Great interview! So, so well done! Thank you.