Tonight, Wednesday, Oct 17th, on American Public Media’s Marketplace, they are going to do a story called The Cost of Moving to Canada. I just heard the teaser announcements they are running on their Morning Report for NPR. This is just a heads up for you, so log in now, and get your accounts open so you are ready to go. This is an GREAT opportunity for immediate feedback and to influence future coverage. I may be out of town when this story runs, so posting this alert in advance.
I would suspect, that this story will be online by about 3 pm, PDT and available for comment. I do not know how comprehensive the story content will be, but if it doesn’t include the cost of Citizenship double taxation, the IRS offshore jihad, and the controversy over FATCA, then it fails. You will have to educate them.
If you want to listen live, it is carried WNYC at 6:30 pm EDT live here, This link should launch an internet radio player pop up and start streaming automatically. If you prefer a west coast station, it will be on KUOW at 6:30 pm PDT here. Click on the appropriate media in the Now Playing box. If you have a Windows media player add-on it should play directly in your browser. If you don’t, it will download a kuow.asx file, which you can remove from your download folder by dragging to your desk top and click on it. This should launch Windows Media Player, or your default player. The radio station will then stream online.
Also, for those of you you want to send separate messages (in addition to posting a comment) to the main host, Kai Rysdall, here are his contact details. Direct email feedback messages here. Twitter messages can be sent to @MarketplaceAPM or @kairyssdal or you can follow them. BTW, I am blocked from following Kai, but not Marketplace. Maybe he only wants those to follow him that he follows, and I am not so privileged 🙂
Now, let’s see what Kai has to say in the story he is about to run. It should be interesting.
BTW… Another story on Pri’s The World about Cuba lifting travel restrictions. This allowed me an opening to ask the Citizenship Taxation question with a tweet and a comment.
https://twitter.com/FATCA_Fallout/status/258606758157762561
and also I posted this…
Thanks Just Me. I’ve got Marketplace cued up to go but if I miss it tonight, live, there is always the archive which seems to get updated quite quickly. While exploring the site I came across an interesting segment regarding medical billing codes and instantly connected that to the IRS and its infamous 70,000 pages. My oh my, how Americans do love their complexities! Actually coding is a part of our medical system too but having worked in a medical records department (albeit many years ago in Canada) I can almost safely say it hasn’t reached the absurdity of a cotton ball code … yet! If anyone is feeling a tad anarchy-achy today here’s the censored version of “My Country My Ass”.
@Em…
Hadn’t seen that one. Certainly a good Libertarian non partisan amusing song rant. 🙂 and catchy too
*@Em, That was great and so true.. Love it!!
I just listened to marketplace. If that was about “the cost of moving to Canada” it was seriously misrepresented! “Moving to Canada” was mentioned as something people might say they would do but wouldn’t really do. That was it. Or did I miss something, or get the day wrong?
*I moved back to Canada from the US last year, and it has cost me dearly. And yet, I am am glad that I got out when I did. My main regret is that I became a US citizen (I am Canadian by birth), so now I am in the process of undoing that horrible mistake…
I guess that must have been it, CanuckDoc. I kept waiting for more – nothing. Thanks, Just Me, for alerting us to a program that might have included something of substance, but again didn’t. I wonder what the real story would have generated there.
@CanuckDoc
No, you didn’t get it wrong.
I should just delete this post, as they sure did misrepresented this story in the promo they did early this morning. I thought we had a good opportunity to educate on real costs related to moving to Canada. I assumed, it was going to be an economic story about American’s looking for jobs over the border.
My bad, as they say.
From the title, they presented it as something is obviously is not. I think they used the “Moving to Canada” tag as a way to get interest, like from those that fled the draft to move to Canada in the 60s. They put it in the current political context of your candidate losing, and then lying to yourself about what you would do.
That said, I do like Stephen Dunber, and Freakonomics. And the subject was interesting enough on its own. I have often thought about doing a post on how we lie all the time, and the most pernicious is those that to do to ourselves about what we say we will or will not do if this or that happens. “I am so upset, and so I am going to move to Canada”, but fortunately for Canadians most that say they will do that, don’t! So be thankful! 🙂
Also, something to consider, is all of those that swear they are going to renounce their citizenship because of FATCA, we need to watch for the actions, and not the words. Sometimes we put up with a lot without taking the action we say we will. ConfederateH would say that the result is that people are willing to be Slaves to a welfare state. Maybe, but somehow I don’t think it is as simple of an answer. I mean, I look at women and say, Why would millions who do not live in an tribal, patriarchal, and repressive regime voluntarily wear burkas, but yet they do? How many tell themselves they are going to take them off, but they don’t?
In the meantime, sorry for the false alarm, but I can recommend Freakonomics Podcasts here, so not all is lost. I didn’t mean to pull a ‘bait and switch’ on you! 🙂
Not a bait & switch at all, Just Me. Had the piece lived up to its hype, we would have been there to take part — thanks to you.
What I got out of it is that they thought some US people would be foolish enough to assert they would move to Canada should their candidate not win, but of course such a thing would never really happen, it being outrageous and such.
How outrageous!
Wikipedia: “List of former United States citizens who relinquished their nationality”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_United_States_citizens_who_relinquished_their_nationality
The list includes some pretty famous people like Yul Brynner, Jet Li and Queen Noor.
@all,
may I ask a dumb question? How is it that people have the idea that they can just move to another country? Unless one is filthy rich and can buy their way in, one has to satisfy whatever the current criteria is.
Rumor has it the gunman at the Canadian border really tried to shoot himself only and missed and grazed the Canadian border by accident. Maybe he had a strong urge to leave the US and realized it wouldn’t be so easy to jump countries. Of course this is wild speculation on my part, but why commit suicide at a border?
grazed the Canadian border agent that is.
From The Jerusalem Post: “Israeli expats returning home in record numbers”
http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=287927
One cannot help but wonder how many Israeli expats leaving America have dual citizenship and how many will renounce their US citizenship upon returning to Israel.
Food for thought.
@JohnBrown,
indeed