Well I got my CLN today. My passport was of course with it but it wasn’t punched full of holes. There was not one additional hole that was added. The only alteration that I could see was the note regarding the day of my expatriation.
My CLN now rests comfortably inside my bank’s safety deposit box. I did make a copy before hand though and had it witnessed by a Commissionaire of Oaths.
@calgary411- The date on it is indeed the same date as my Calgary appointment.
Congratulations and welcome to the club! 🙂
Bravo! But the big date is June 15, 2013 when you file your last tax forms for the form nation. That is if you aren’t a “covered” serf.
*How did you receive your CLN? registered mail etc?
@iticaf- it came double registered mail. I had to pick it up at the post office and sign for it.
*The reason I asked is that I had a letter come registered mail from Calgary with no return address or any way to identify who the letter came from. That was last week and I didn’t refuse the letter I just didn’t accept it. I got another notice so now I’m curious.
@iticaf- when I got my letter from the Consulate last week Mon or Tues there was a return address on the envelope which showed that it was from the Calgary Consulate. The address was stamped in red on the envelope.
*@recalcitrantexpat – Congratulations, I guess I’ll have to wait a bit longer. Renounced in Calgary March 7/12. Thanks for the extra info much appreciated.
Congratulations! I’m especially happy for you because, as you probably know, one of your posts really lifted my morale when I was at my lowest point on this journey.
@pacifica- Thank you for your kind words. I am thankful that I could have written something that proved useful to you when you were down. I know that I too have found much encouragement and instruction from the many contributors to this site.
I know that all of us who have disabled children are appreciative of all the efforts that are made on our behalf, by you and others who do not have disabled children.
@all- THANK YOU!
You’re right, recalcitrant. I’ll am so appreciative of everyone who now knows and understand our stories and highlights the absurdity from time to time — and I’m sure Cecilia feels the same. It has made it lots easier to know others are as outraged. Thanks, All.
*Recalcitrant and Calgary411-I still feel disheartened that I am unable to renounce U.S. citizenship for my daughter with the developmental disability. I wonder how many other families are out there with the same situation? My husband still thinks we need to continue to file income tax returns for her in the future, whereas, my stance would be to stop doing this! On the one hand, as her legal guardian in Canada, the U.S. denies my ability to renounce for her; but as her legal trustee, the U.S. acknowledges my role to file income tax returns on her behalf.
@Cecilia- the U.S. always wants to interpret the laws in such a way that it favors them and saddles them with no costs. If the U.S. won’t acknowledge our trusteeship powers when it comes to renouncing then they can’t acknowledge them when it comes to filing.
We have to remember that if we file for them that they are then also going to be denied their full rights as Canadian citizens, which means no RDSP’s or TFSA’s. This would mean crippling them with regards to their existence in Canada. Our children will never live in the U.S. and I don’t believe that it would ever be desireable for them to do so.
The U.S. has no right to dictate to any none resident citizen what he/she can or cannot do with the none interest bearing legal debt instruments of another country’s treasury. U.S. sovereignty does not extend that far.
As a responsible guardian I for one refuse to be a party to an arrangement that disadvantages my disabled child. My responsibility to my child transcends any fictitous obigation on my part that the U.S. may attempt to conjure from its factory of “irrationality”.
*Thanks, Recalcitrantexpat for those thoughts! Looks like we are on the same page.
@recalcitrant and @cecilia,
I agree with all that recalcitrant says, that you go along with Cecilia. I’ll do it a little differently by not registering my son in any way with the US and starting the merry-go-round of US compliance that would deny him the benefits that others in Canada get. I would like to know more about the maximum ten-year rule for IRS not collecting on persons residing outside the US, as highlighted today by Tim, http://isaacbrocksociety.ca/2012/06/22/switzerland-and-japan-sell-out-to-fatca/ .
*@Calgary411, I think it is maximum 10 yrs collection time for US citizens residing IN the US. The collection period is suspended if a USC is resident outside of the US for 6 continuous months. The time period is then extended by at least 6 more months, once the US person returns to the US.
Thanks, iamquincy.
Not applicable — I ain’t never going to be returning.