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US uses #americansabroad to exact tribute from other nations isaacbrocksociety.ca/2012/06/12/the… and #PFICs + renounceuscitizenship.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/how…#FBAR #FATCA #OVDI
— U.S. Citizen Abroad (@USCitizenAbroad) June 13, 2012
As I finish this post I note that our very own Petros has written a wonderful post on the same theme. I begin by borrowing from his post where he notes that:
I have maintained that the actions of the United States government in recent years, reaching across borders to exact tribute from subjects who live within the jurisdiction of other sovereign countries, are hostile acts; this extra-territorial tax crack-down is potentially a casus belli. In earlier epochs, nations went to war in order to exact tribute. We are witnessing the United States presiding over the destruction of the world order which it was instrumental in creating after the end of World War II. It is only a matter of time before the nations realize that the United States has attacked them on several fronts in this financial war. Perhaps journalists will be the last to know, as most of them still seem to have a man crush on President Obama.
Exactly 200 years after the war of 1812, the U.S. appears to be on the attack again. How? By sending its citizens to other countries and then “exacting tribute” from them in a way that harms other governments.
Interestingly, this week, the following comment was on the ACA Facebook page:
I say with every ounce of facetiousness I can muster up: Every government of the world should stop letting Americans come to reside in their country. Eventually the ones that have slipped in before the draw bridge was raised will die off, leaving each country sanitized of these toxic elements. No more punishment for leaving the homeland, no more drain on anyone’s resources trying to hunt us down. Citizenship based taxation, the sacred cow of stupidity.
The author is correct. Countries must protect their sovereignty. Therefore, U.S. citizens should be banned from immigrating to any other country. U.S. citizens are a threat to the fiscal stability and sovereignty of any country. There are a number of reasons: including the inability of U.S. citizens to participate in normal financial planning and other vehicles of self reliance. I intend to do a series of posts exploring this theme. Today (as we get to the June 15 tax filing deadline) I offer you the “PFIC Edition”.
Lately I have been reading about the shortage of labor in Alberta. The suggestion is that this shortage could be helped by bringing U.S. citizens to Alberta. U.S. workers can come to Canada pursuant to NAFTA or by seeking to become permanent residents of Canada. Some of them will eventually become Canadian citizens and some may not. U.S. citizenship-based taxation means that the U.S. citizen in Canada will be subject to all tax reporting and information return requirements. Most countries use their tax laws as a way to encourage people to save for retirement, save for home, etc. You will see that the opportunities for U.S. citizens to do this are far more limited.
Financial Planning in Canada – The hallmark of smart financial planning in Canada is tax deferral
In Canada the public policy objective of encouraging responsible financial planing and savings is accomplished through a variety of vehicles that allow for the deferral of tax. This is accomplished in one of two ways:
1. Allowing an investment to accrue “tax free” until it is distributed. Examples include: RRSP, TFSA, RESP, etc. (in the case of an RRSP the contributor is even allowed a tax deduction in the year of contribution).
2. Allowing the use of a Canadian Controlled Private Corporation which allows for a threshold amount of income to be taxed a lower rate. The result is that one can accumulate a pool of investment capital more quickly. ( I think the “long run” value of this is dubious.)
In other words, the hallmark of smart financial planning in Canada is to invest and save in a way that defers tax.
The U.S. Tax System is designed to attack investments that are designed to defer tax – it is the opposite of Canada’s tax system
The U.S. Canada tax treaty seems to have carved out an “exception” for RRSPs (just make sure that you meet the “Form Nation” form requirement) making it possible for U.S. citizens in Canada to have an RRSP. That is the only “tax deferral” investment that the U.S. allows. For example, although a TFSA is a smart vehicle for retirement planning in Canada, it is not tax deferred in the U.S. In other words, income in the TFSA is reportable every year in the U.S. This means that a U.S. citizen in Canada who owns a TFSA is required to pay tax on income (assuming it stays in the TFSA) that was never received. This destroys the whole point of the TFSA. Now the question becomes: from a practical point of view how much tax is actually payable. It appears that all of it is taxable. Why? Investment income is NOT covered by the earned income exclusion. My primary point is that TFSAs provide an opportunity for a U.S. tax to be payable on income that was never been received. This is a major problem.
Note also that I am concentrating only on the tax implications of investments. As you know, the penalties for failing to report these investments are “life altering”. For those who are dying to read more: I offer you “Looking for Mr. FBAR“.
Investments that are particularly problematic for U.S. citizens in Canada
Mutual Funds = Tax Cancer: U.S. citizens should invest only in mutual funds that are in the United States!
Now for the record, my experience is that most mutual funds are bad investments. Although one cannot predict the future, my guess is that we are going to be in an long investment environment that has a “low rate of return”. The return on GICs is very low. Yet the management fees on Canadian mutual funds are very high. Although this post is not about evaluating the quality of investments, it is hard to make a case for investing in mutual funds. Furthermore, I want you to feel better with what I am about to tell you.
Canadian Mutual Funds = PFICs for U.S. Tax Purposes = The most punitive tax ever
The bottom line is that when it comes to PFICs you will be taxed:
– at the highest marginal tax rate (even as a capital gain)
– on money you actually receive
– on money that you did NOT receive but are deemed to have received
– and will be subject to the endless mindlessness of the “Form Nation” forms
That’s all you need to know. But, for those who want to understand a bit about PFIC:
There are two issues:
1. What is a PFIC – Explained by taxplannercpa.com
While many portions of the U.S. tax code possess confusing and sometimes harsh rulings, the tax regime for Passive Foreign Investment Companies (PFIC) is almost unmatched in its complexity and almost draconian features. Countless times, our international clients have come to us to prepare what they thought would be straightforward tax returns- only to later learn that the small investment they had made in a non-US mutual fund was now subjecting them to all the concomitant filing requirements and tax obligations. While it is beyond the scope of this article to cover all the numerous details related to PFIC reporting requirements, my hope is to provide guidance and insight into the world of PFICs.
History
The PFIC tax regime was created via the Tax Reform Act of 1986 with the intent to level the playing field for US based investment funds (ie mutual funds). Prior to the legislation of 1986, U.S.-based mutual funds were forced to pass-through all investment income earned by the fund to its investors (resulting in taxable income). In contrast, foreign mutual funds were able to shelter the aforementioned taxable income as long as it was not distributed to its U.S. investors. After the passage of the Tax Reform Act of 1986, the main advantage of foreign mutual funds was effectively nullified by a tax regime that made the practice of delaying the distribution of income prohibitively expensive for most investors. To employ this punitive regime, the IRS requires shareholders of PFICs to effectively report undistributed earnings via choosing to be taxed through one of three possible methods- Section 1291 fund, Qualified Election Fund, and Mark to Market election.Basics
Defined in the Internal Revenue Code (section 1297), a Passive Foreign Investment Company is any foreign corporation that has either:
1. 75% or more of its gross income classified as passive income (i.e. interest, dividends, capital gains, etc…), or
2. 50% or more of its assets are held for the production of passive income.While there are a few exceptions to above rules, most foreign mutual funds, pension funds, and money market accounts would be good examples of PFICs. Furthermore, many foreign REITS also get trapped in the PFIC web. Finally, a foreign holding company that possesses passive investments (like rental real estate or government bonds) would be subject to PFIC regulations if the company was set up as a corporation.
PFIC related information is reported on Form 8621 .
2. Is a Canadian mutual fund a PFIC – Explained by Terry Ritchie
Notice that the assumption that a Canadian mutual fund is a PFIC is the result of a 2010 IRS policy review! Yet, the IRS will treat a mutual fund owned prior to 2010 as a PFIC compounding the unfairness!
What about U.S. citizens who own Canadian mutual funds? Last year, the IRS changed its view of the U.S. tax treatment of foreign mutual funds. Starting in 1986, many Americans used foreign mutual funds to gain tax deferral on income that wasn’t distributed to them. Thanks to the lobbying efforts of the mutual fund industry, the government enacted a new set of complex rules regarding Passive Foreign Investment Companies. A PFIC exists when 75% or more of its gross income for the taxable year consists of passive income or 50% or more of the average fair market value of its assets consists of assets that produce or are held for the production of passive income.
Passive income includes dividends, interest and its equivalents, passive rents and royalties, annuities, gains from the disposition of stocks and securities and other assets, certain gains from commodity trading, and certain foreign currency exchange gains.
As a result of the 2010 IRS policy review, the IRS issued Chief Counsel Advice 201003013, stating Canadian mutual funds should be classified as corporations for U.S. tax purposes. Therefore, if an American citizen receives income from a PFIC or sells a Canadian mutual fund that is a PFIC, U.S. tax and interest penalties could apply.
U.S. citizens in Canada should not invest in Canadian mutual funds! In the words of Bradley Kirschner:
“There has been a lingering question about the US tax treatment of Canadian Mutual Funds in taxable accounts. This discussion does not apply to investments in RRSP accounts. In early 2010, the Internal Revenue Service issued a determination that most Canadian Mutual Funds are corporations for US tax purposes, even though they are organized as trusts under Canadian law. Because they are corporations, most Canadian Mutual Funds are Passive Foreign Investment Companies (PFIC).
A PFIC investor has burdensome US tax reporting as well as potentially confiscatory taxation. If a PFIC provides certain required information, the tax burden can be lessened, but this is not practical for must Canadian Mutual Funds.
There are two solutions—one short-term and one permanent. On a short-term basis you can report income on a “marked to market” basis in your US income tax return. This means that the change in value during the year will be reported as ordinary income. This, of course will, require additional valuation information each year, but it will avoid potential tax and interest charges that have the potential to exceed 100% of the income from the investment.
The second solution, and the one I recommend is divest your portfolio of all foreign mutual funds and invest in individual security issues. While this may not sound like a sensible solution for the Canadian investor, but it is the price of being a U.S. taxpayer.”
Conclusion: U.S. citizens cannot benefit from the same financial planning rules as other Canadians. U.S. Citizenship-based taxation does violence to the policy of the Government of Canada that its citizens/residents save for retirement and participate in responsible financial planning. This increases the likelihood that U.S. citizens in Canada will be dependent on the government for support. Canadian immigration policy discourages immigrants who are likely to impose undue costs on other taxpayers. For example, applicants who are believed to impose high costs on the health care system may not be given “permanent residence” status. The fact that U.S. citizens in Canada are disabled from effective financial planning is a strong reason why the Government of Canada should not allow U.S. citizens to immigrate to Canada!
This is another example of how citizenship-based taxation imposes a cost on the governments where U.S. citizens may reside!
Stupid is as stupid does
I know that the U.S. does not care about its citizens abroad. But, the fact is that U.S. citizenship-based taxation is very harmful to the U.S. economy. Some advice for the U.S.:
*@Petros, good points and I agree wholeheartedly. But sometimes upsetting the apple cart is the only way to initiate change. If all of the EU passed a law like this it would effect hundreds of thousands of Americans and certainly raise the issue to a level it has not yet received. Right now, you can’t even get a congressman to give anything but a form letter back when you write to them about the issue. They just don’t care because it doesn’t get them elected. As far as I understand, no one can be forced to renounce US citizenship, it has to be free will. A foreign government passing laws the US doesn’t like can’t force a individual to renounce against his or her will. And they can’t make us break the law either. But what could they do, make us all return to the US? Or address the issue…
@ Heidelberger, foreign nations making it illegal to pay to the US tax would be perhaps good to protect their tax bases; it would also escalate the problems. It would also force more people out of the wood work to either renounce their US citizenship or return to US.
*PFIC taxation is how I got screwed but need to maintain my US citizenship indefinitely due to family ties…the last thing I need is my country of residence making my compliance even more difficult…
*@Mona Lisa1776, but that’s the whole point. You had no reason not to pay and if you refused the IRS would come down on you like a ton of bricks. But if you would be breaking the law with some 750,000 other Americans in the country which you live, then the US has to respond with either some kind of dialog or invading Canada. Which is more likely? I seriously doubt the US will strip of us our US citizenship and leave us stateless. Considering that many of may not even be dual citizens like many of us living in Germany due to their naturalization laws which seek to minimize dual citizens.
*I’m aware that after tax rises in the 2013 tax year, due to anomalies that I will continue to owe around $500 in double taxation plus around $2,000 to my accountant which I can just about live with. I have two passports so will still consider renouncing if compliance becomes signifcantly more expensive though.
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Was struck by how we as deemed US taxable persons ‘abroad’ could even have the PFIC problem if we’re merely named as beneficiaries on a non-US citizen spousal one, or possibly from another non-US family member. So the IRS and the US in their hubris and arrogance, even reserves the right to direct the investment and savings behaviour of non-US persons in sovereign countries, from afar. It is definitely about manipulating markets and returns for the gain of US banks and the US economy, and all the rest is one big fat deliberate lie that it is about tax evaders, terror-funding or money laundering.
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Saw this re PFICs. Don’t know what to make of it? :
http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/blog-post/pfics-irs-ignores-facta-law
………”Within just the past few days, the IRS has published final instructions for completing IRS Form 8621 for 2012. [http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i8621.pdf]
Although FATCA was signed back in 2010 and requires the IRS to
collect these forms from every US person who owns a PFIC (directly or
indirectly) the IRS has it seems told millions of taxpayers to ignore
that part of the law.
The IRS phrase this generously by explaining that a new section on the form known as:
“Summary of Annual Information was added to reflect the new
annual filing requirement of section 1298(f) which was added by section
521 of the Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act of 2010. However,
this new Part I is not required until the underlying regulations are
published. For now, they have been Reserved For Future Use (sic). Form
8621 will be revised when Part I becomes effective.”
The IRS has – seemingly – gone and put the additional FATCA reporting for PFICs back on the “too difficult” pile once again……..”
Some useful information about the current state of things re PFICs (blog in general is also very helpful):
http://blogs.angloinfo.com/us-tax/2013/02/11/latest-irs-news-annual-reporting-foreign-mutual-funds-and-other-pfic-investments/
LATEST IRS NEWS — ANNUAL REPORTING — Foreign Mutual Funds and other “PFIC” Investments
February 11, 2013 by Virginia La Torre Jeker J.D.
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Just adding to the information about PFICs here, as this looked useful (though I don’t understand it so I can’t comment):
http://fedtaxdevelopments.foxrothschild.com/2014/01/articles/federal-tax-regulations/the-treasury-and-service-issue-regulations-on-determining-stock-ownership-and-annual-filing-requirements-of-u-s-persons-owning-stock-in-passive-foreign-investment-companies/
‘The Treasury and Service Issue Regulations On Determining Stock Ownership and Annual Filing Requirements Of U.S. Persons Owning Stock in Passive Foreign Investment Companies
By Jerald David August on January 1, 2014 Posted in Federal Tax Regulations ‘
….”Conclusion
The newly issued regulations, while welcome, still reveal that there are major gaps and uncertainties still present in applying the PFIC rules. Commentators have previously asked for such guidance but the Service has been slow in responding. Perhaps it’s the sequestration. A more extensive look at the regulations and the general rules on the income taxation of U.S. persons owning stock in a Passive Foreign Investment Company will appear soon in the Journal of Business Entities….”
Site looks useful, and other PFIC info came up using a keyword search in the search window.
http://blogs.angloinfo.com/us-tax/2014/01/06/irs-gives-good-news-on-pfic/
‘IRS Gives Good News on PFIC’
January 6, 2014
“Creeping up to the New Year, the Internal Revenue Service (“IRS”) showed an uncharacteristic sign of holiday goodwill. On December 30, 2013 the IRS issued Temporary Treasury Regulations providing guidance with regard to so-called “passive foreign investment companies” (“PFIC”). The areas covered in the Regulations include guidance in determining ownership of a PFIC (specifically, attributing ownership of PFIC stock through partnerships, estates and trusts), the annual filing requirements for shareholders of PFICs and guidance on the exception to the requirement for certain shareholders of foreign corporations to file Form 5471, “Information Return of U.S. Persons with Respect to Certain Foreign Corporations.’…….”
I don’t understand what the ‘good news’ is either, badger.
At the end of that blog entry, though, is this “warning” so those with PFIC’s maybe shouldn’t get too excited:
How many of us know what “excess distributions” would be? Perhaps from our “middle-school” education as stated by JEG?
@Badger,
LOL re: “How many of us know what “excess distributions” would be? Perhaps from our “middle-school” education as stated by JEG? “
@WhiteKat and calgary411, I can’t understand what they are talking about, and I can’t see how it could possibly be rational for the IRS to expect that an ordinary person living in Canada, with a Canadian mutual fund should have to study US tax law and accounting in order to ‘comply’. That in addition to their antics with delaying any clarifications, and refusing to provide definitive opinions, rulings, etc.
So, with this issue, and for our TFSAs, we are/were forced to jump through hoops that assume for safety sake that they are US taxable, pay professionals to fill out the lengthy and incomprehensible forms, assess US tax on ourselves, and eat up the balances of our Canadian earned and locally held savings so that we end up with less than we started with.
The punitive treatment of Canadian mutual funds apparently came about because of complaints by US banks who did not want the competition for investment and US accountholder dollars by Canadian banks and products. The TFSA and RESP and RDSP ‘foreign trust’ BS is because the US is paranoid, and works from the base assumption that everyone outside the US is a criminal already, and if not, we are all criminals in waiting. So their solution is to deny us any real ways to save or prosper which are offered in our home country of tax residence.
The same thing happened with Canadian RRSPs, it is just that many of us who didn’t even know about US CBT and FBAR etc. missed the convoluted and tortured history of the US treatment and sudden decision of the IRS to treat them retroactively as ‘taxable foreign trusts’, and then after a period of public outcry, prescribed the 8891 and annual treaty election in order to recognize them as non-taxable or tax deferred – but only if the election was made annually. Some part of this is described by Hale Sheppard http://www.chamberlainlaw.com/attorneys-96.html http://taxblawg.net/tag/rrsp/ and others.