In trying to do my 2010 taxes I realize that it was absolutely the right choice for me to relinquish my United States citizenship. A significant percentage of my income is “unearned” income. I’ve tried to come up with a zero return based on my Canadian taxes paid (Foreign Tax Credit) but the Form 116 is hopelessly complicated and I cannot do it myself. The year 2010 was perhaps my first really good year as an investor, and so I’ve never had to have a Form 116 done for me, since my US income tax was always zero based on the FEIE and the personal exemptions. I have decided that it is actually impossible to be an investor of any kind as a United States person living in a foreign jurisdiction, even a high tax region like Canada. Here are some of my reflexions in trying to do my 2010 taxes:
- Double taxation is a serious threat to investors. TaxAct said that my income tax before applying the FEIE (Foreign Earned Income Exemption) or the Foreign Tax Credit (you can’t use both on earned income, only one or the other) was y dollars. My 2010 Notice of Assessment (Canada) says I paid y dollars of taxes in Canada. Therefore in principle, I should owe nothing. But figuring out the Foreign Tax Credit (Form 116) is like doing an entirely new tax return. I see now why cross-border tax specialists can charge 1-2K to do a tax filing. Who can understand this gobbledygook?
- Capital gains are treated completely different in the United States than they are in Canada: In Canada, there are series of tests to determine if a stock trader should treat his profits from trades as capital gains or regular income (Is he a frequent trader? Are the stocks held over the long term? Is he trading full time? Does he have professional knowledge in the investing field? Does he use a margin account or other leverage?). If you generally have long holding period, and your main interest is long term capital gains and dividends, then profits from trading can be treated as capital gains. In the US there are short term capital gains (stocks held less than a year) or long term gains. Short term gains apparently are taxed like earned income–but don’t have the designation of earned income (so forget about using the FEIE to offset it). Since stock trading is subject to two completely different set of rules, it is impossible for a trader to be a US person and live in Canada. I had no choice but to relinquish my citizenship so that this nightmare that I am experiencing over my 2010 taxes will go away for future years.
- Dividends are treated differently in Canada and the United States. Canada eligible dividends receive favorable treatment in Canada because the company issuing the dividend has already paid taxes at the corporate level. If I am not mistaken however, the United States treats these dividends as “foreign” dividends and therefore not subject to this more favorable treatment.
- RRSP : Registered Retirement Savings Plan accounts are covered under the Tax treaty between the United States and Canada. So where is my reduction of income for an RRSP contribution on the US tax return? As far as I can tell, the RRSP does not defer income tax for a US person. I thought that the Tax Treaty covered this, but apparently, there is no tax reduction for putting money into a RRSP, only the US lets you to defer your income inside the RRSP. So here is the thing: I would be better deferring my RRSP contribution to my 2011 taxes; but that’s bad for my Canadian taxes because I made more in 2011 than in 2010. So once again, I cannot figure out what to do.
- TFSA : Tax Free Savings Accounts are wonderful savings vehicles for Canadians. But it is not covered under the treaty. So it is a complicated nightmare for US persons living in Canada. Leave it alone. The same applies to RESP and RDSP (registered education and disability plans).
- The Alternate Minimum Tax in the United States assassinates investors.
In the end, the dilemma for United States person living in Canada is this: Whatever tax dodges that are legally available to me in Canada, such as capital gains, Canada eligible dividends, RRSP contributions or gains in a TFSA, will suffer adversely from US taxes. So I cannot order my life to please Revenue Canada and the Internal Revenue Service both. No one can serve two tax masters.
I think this is probably worth going to Canadian tax court over. If the IRS wants to collect even one red cent from me, they are going to have to make the CRA collect it for them. Then I will explain that I paid y dollars in Canada; i.e., I’ve paid the Tax Master once, why should I have to pay again in a foreign country.
If Chua’s case was thrown out of court Canadian court–it concerned a six figure capital gains tax bill incurred from the sale of US investment (according to Tim–some research needs to be done on this)–then why would the IRS bother coming after me using the CRA? My total taxes are much less than that by a factor of ten.
Anyway, Jean-Luc Picard expresses how I feel right now (for me the Borg is the United States Federal Government):
@recalcitrantexpat, and becoming pariahs out in the world won’t help.
@monalisa 1776 – I can understand the parents aspect, sadly I passed that milestone last year where the final parent passed away – it changes your perspective vis-a-vis abouit the US. Especially when both your kids have English accents and they see for themselves the US for what it is – not as we grew up in American schools.
However they both have US passports as well and I believe fall into that new category of “hard to control” US citizens because of their UK place of birth.
Petros –
Your willingness to share your agonies and to put your personal situation out in public does a lot to put a human face on excruciating mismatches. The best single summary I have come across (without any serious searching) is
US citizens resident in Canada — common circumstances where US tax may be payable
If a willing tax wonk were to take on the task, an open-ended continuously updated list of mismatches could be a useful piece in the hands of Sir Isaac Brock. The foundation is laid in this article and this posting.
@usacanada, There is one important fact that is left of this list. If you know how to get it added, it might be worthwhile. It has to do with Item 8 Charitable Deductions.
In order to be deductible for US tax purposes, the Charitable deduction must be made to a Chartibable organizaion organized in the US. Canadian charities do not qualify for US tax purposes unless, and this is important, the Canadian charity has taken the actions prescribed in the US-Canada tax treaty to obtain and has been qualified for tax deductability with the IRS.
Perhaps someone else can provide more detailed information on his.
Petros
I’ve felt your pain. I had to fill out all those forms for TFSA, RRSP and RESP. Well, truth be-told I helped my Canadian tax preparer work through the forms. She was more than shocked after completing my US return. I did get double taxed, $106 US. 2010 ‘pay for performance’ at work was just a bit too good and I went beyond the FTC, doh! On the upside my Canadian return was very good.
I was charged $300 to have my US return done. Since this was a bit of a learning lesson for my tax preparer she decided gave me a break. The real cost for preparing my US return was $1550. I can’t justify that cost year after year, so for me renouncing was also the best solution. Although I would have renounced anyway, the feeling of freedom has been fantastic!
Petros – perhaps ex-pats should attach an invoice (for accountant’s fees rendered) to their 1040 either reducing what they owe or adding on to what they get for a refund. A US passport is not worth the “accountant’s tax.” – you made the right choice jettisoning your US citizenship.
I believe accountant fees can only be included as an itemised deduction and would only make a difference if greater than the standard deduction which is around $5800 for married filing separately.
@petros, @john, if you itemize your deductions you can indeed include what you pay for tax preparation fees. You can also dedct the cost of fiing electronically and if you paid a convenience fee to be able to pay your US tax via credit card, that is also deductible. Remember that these expenses are for the year covered by the tax return; not for the the costs of the return you are currently prparing. You can deduct these next year. No need to attach the invoices, but keep them in case of an IRS audit.
Even Phil Hodgen is thinking about subpart F income:
https://twitter.com/#!/renounceus/status/196030777341906945
Just when you thought you knew about all the forms. Form Nation should create a national games called:
Name that form!! Imagine the excitement. Here are a few more courtesy of Roy Berg:
https://twitter.com/#!/renounceus/status/196030238117998594
Try to get the tweet in again:
https://twitter.com/#!/renounceus/status/196030238117998594