Ottawa MP Paul Dewar (NDP Foreign Affairs Critic) is hosting a FATCA information session at Tom Brown Arena, 141 Bayview, Ottawa, Monday, 26 March, 7 pm. Other speakers include the NDP National Revenue Critic, the NDP Finance Critic, an accountant, and a lawyer. Full details on Mr. Dewar’s website. Thanks to Schubert for bringing this to our attention.
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Or maybe she has read a few of the posts here and has become so appauled that the US gov’t would do such things to honest, hard working US citizens abroad that she is busy organizing her forms so that she too can renounce US citizenship. 😉
Why would I want her sympathy? Is it any use to me? Can I eat it? Can I build something with it? Does it smell nice? Why does it matter?
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And she hates expats too!
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@all
As Calgary411 noted in a previous comment:
“It’s as though (in general) there are two groups of people: those who are living the nightmare and those who aren’t.”
Those who are not living the nightmare cannot possibly understand our plight. The only valuable thing we can do is embrace the opportunity to educate one mainlander at a time.
We will accomplish nothing if we fail to exercise patience. We might accomplish something if we make an honest attempt to engage her (or anybody else).
I have come to see that many U.S. citizens living in the U.S. are disabled by a kind of “nationalistic narcissism”. They start with a presumption that their world view is correct. They think citizenship-based taxation is correct, therefore it is. Any discussion with a mainlander will start with this presumption. Patience is required. It will take time to dislodge these presumptions.
We will never succeed unless we try to engage people – particularly somebody like Ms. Beale. If we fail to engage, we will surely lose. So, let’s be patient and try!
Anyone who wants to can over in post at her blog in fact I recommend as many as possible who are interested do so.
http://ataxingmatter.blogs.com/tax/2012/03/still-havent-filed-your-fbar-dont-wait-til-you-get-hit-with-forfeiture-like-this-alaska-plastic-surg.html
I read some of the academic gobbledegook on her blog. She’s too smart for me. So good luck trying to educate her.
I think she just accused 1 million dual citizens in Canada of being blackmailers. You knock yourself out Tim, we’ll keep each other company over here.
I just told that imbecile of a professor the following:
.As a lawyer I think you “might” be aware of article 15 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which “Your” nation is a signatory: Article 15.
(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
Without any doubt the US is in violation of section 2 as millions of us would love to have nothing to do with the nation that is somehow inscribed in our DNA according to US law.
The US is the only nation that assumes that anyone who might want to leave “God’s gift to earth” is doing so in order to avoid taxes. They therefore make it almost impossible to leave this “US suit” behind.
But of course, the USA spurns any involvement with international institutions of law such as the International Court of Justice in the Hague as its human rights record would see virtually all the past 15 US presidents in the dock!
I think the reason she doesn’t respond here is that we would tear her arguments to shreds with logic.
Talking to Americans = a waste of time.
did anyone attend the Ottawa meeting with the NDP?
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“Now, most progressives do hold that government is neither inherently good or bad–our goal is for it to operate as a means for us to achieve collectively what we cannot do as individuals, such as controlling pollution of major corporations or ensuring quality standards in respect of food products or providing funding to support basic, non-commercial research that may (or may not) significantly contribute to improved quality of life now or in the future.”
As a Canadian born, bred and raised by two Canadians – I will not release my information to the IRS for being a recalcitrant account holder. (I will not answer when they ask me where I am from); what they will get is my middle finger. You’ve just made it absolutely clear that most liberals behind their “rah rah, USA…” and your bullshit crap of “as a means for us to achieve collectively what we cannot do as individuals”…is an excuse for sticking your fingers in pockets where it doesn’t belong…and excusing your government for trampling on the sovereignty of other nations by inflicting economic war. I don’t make excuses for liberal “I want YOUR money!” attitudes and I will not tolerate them in any shape or form. FATCA is a) a US law b) it does not belong anywhere other than in the Continental United States. Your jurisdiction stops at the 49th parallel. My money does not belong to the United States, nor should it go to help out those who will not work. What your comments are is disgusting, it smacks of jingoism combined with Oliver Twistian logic – “Please…can we have some more”…minus the “please” and degenerates into “Give it to me or ELSE!”. Yes, please do us all a favor and remove yourself from this blog. I have put up with enough of the FATCA BS and I refuse to be polite to a Homelander who has the temerity to tell us that “we owe the United States something.”
She does not care. She does not ontologically understand reality. the us empire was a fraud. a corporation. it’s members were simply tax cows, a tax base for manifest destiny, endless war mongering, and more military hoo yah.
The us empire was broken, empty, and soulless.