On February 4, 2014 I sent a submission to the New Zealand Finance and Expenditure Committee on the “Taxation (Annual Rates, Employee Allowances, and Remedial Matters) Bill”. This bill is understood to be in part, the enabling legislation for a FATCA IGA between New Zealand and the United States.
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After sending my submission I was notified of the following opportunity:
The Finance and Expenditure Committee will be hearing submissions on the above bill on Wednesday, 12 February 2014 from 10.00am and your submissions has been allocated a time as follows:
“Wednesday, 12 February 2014
11.45am – 12.00am [Submissions can be made via teleconference.]
Select Committee Room to be advised
Parliament House
WellingtonPlease confirm if you are able to attend and if so the names and designations of your presenters. Submissions can be made via teleconference.
At present there is a trial of webcasting being conducted of select committee hearings; it is possible this hearing may webcast depending on the room allocated.”
I have accepted the invitation of the Committee. Here is the submission:
By keeping the focus on the relationship between citizenship-based taxation and FATCA, I have attempted to align the submission to the Yates, Kish, Richardson submission to the U.S. Senate Finance Committee on citizenship-based taxation.
Monthly Archives: February 2014
#FATCA News ‘Breakout’ in New Zealand. Is Stealth coming to an end?
There have been recent spat of news coverage of FATCA in New Zealand media after a long drought!
It is coming on the back of the Select Committee consideration of FATCA IGA implementation legislation buried in a “Remedial Matters” bill. This has been blogged about here with analysis, and here with a plea for comments. The comment submission process closes tonight.
The media coverage started at Wellington Dom Post by Journalist Ben Heather of ben.heather@dompost.co.nz
It was reported on a NewZealand Stuff report, Move to Alter Privacy Laws to help US and has generated 176 comments so far.
There then followed Radio National coverage, a close parallel to CBC News and there are several audio links.
FATCA Top Story on the Radio National website
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/235129/government-has-‘no-choice’-over-privacy-info
It was the first story on 8pm news last night:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/radionz/programmes/news-bulletin/audio/2584610/radio-new-zealand-news
There was a segment on the Afternoon panel:
(Note: Segment starts at 08:10. FCC lawyer from PWC gives the party line. As Osgood says, they still seem to think it is about Americans living here.)
Also there was further discussion with Select Committee members…
Interview with David Parker:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2584601/labour-wants-us-to-hand-over-nzers%27-tax-details
Another clip with quote from David Clark, also on Select Committee:
Now we wait to see if the NZHerald in Auckland, the nations largest newspaper, picks up the story and expands on it. I have written both the News Desk and the Editor asking for public coverage.
Factors that helped with awareness is the tireless efforts of @Osgood and the support we have received from James Jatras with this posting about the notice being sent to Ambassador Mike Moore about RNC repeal efforts.
New Zealand Ambassador Alerted to Repeal FATCA Movement, Others to Follow
In the RepealFATCA.com posting is included the text of Solomon Yue’s message to Ambassador Moore. Needless to say, he has received several tweets about it from me.
Also, today, just out, is this press release by CF&P
CF&P Urges New Zealand to Reject FATCA Compliance Legislation
(Washington, D.C., Tuesday, February 4, 2014) The Center for Freedom and Prosperity submitted testimony in response to open solicitations from the Parliament of New Zealand regarding tax legislation to implement compliance with the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA). Authored by CF&P Director of Government Affairs, Brian Garst, the testimony warned that appeasement of U.S. demands is the wrong approach, suggesting instead that New Zealand should join in efforts to repeal FATCA.
Link to Testimony: http://freedomandprosperity.org/2014/testimony-and-speeches/testimony-to-parliament-of-new-zealand-on-fatca/
So, it has been a busy time working the FATCA awareness side of the equation and it is gratifying to see all this attention that frankly we have Osgood’s efforts to thank for.
Further contact information:
Osgood just sent these other email address for those who might want to communicate directly to Radio National…
afternoons@radionz.co.nz
morningreport@radionz.co.nz
news@radionz.co.nz (a generic news email address)
James Jatras has written to Ben, the journalist that broke the story originally at the Dom Post and got indications of interest in an interview in the future, which would be good.
A couple observations James made to Ben about the Radio National coverage that bear noting.
Some of the commentary and discussion on RNZ was excellent, while others (with all due respect, especially from Mr. Nightingale from PwC) was inaccurate. Note:
· FATCA does not just apply to “Americans living in New Zealand,” but would violate the personal privacy of an unknown number of New Zealanders in your own country.
· The pending FATCA agreement is not a “treaty” and is not just an extension of existing tax treaties (as Mr. Nightingale stated) but a new set of obligations imposed on NZ with at best questionable legal status, and no legal obligation on the US side.
· FATCA is not just about people who are avoiding taxes, and in fact not a single provision in the FATCA statute targets actual tax evasion activity; rather, it is an NSA-style data dragnet.
· Whatever meagre amount IRD claims enforcement of the pending NZ would cost, it would be far dwarfed by the millions of dollars per financial institution that will be passed on to Kiwi consumers.
· New Zealand would not receive any useful tax information in return from the US.
· The trump argument for agreeing to FATCA – the threat of 30% withholding – has no legitimate basis in international law or norms of state-to-state behavior. It is a threat of extrajudicial reprisal against your citizens, your consumers, and your national sovereignty.
These and other problems with the pending NZ law are addressed in my submission to the relevant NZ parliamentary committee, here.
That’s all for the moment. Now, back to proofing my own submission to the Select Committee and get it up loaded. 13 hours left until the comment ability is removed.
A look at “The Power of Rights” — free to be treated fairly, regardless of race or religion or NATIONAL ORIGIN!
Again, we ask the Canadian Government if ALL Canadians will have the same rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, no matter the country they are from or the country their parent(s) are from.
This was forwarded to me by my sister who lives in the US. She is among those who recognize that our rights as US Persons in other countries are being abused.
Human Rights: Every person on earth is supposed to have these — what are they?
This video can be watched, keeping in mind our discrimination by *USA* nationality with extra-territorial FATCA combined with citizenship-based taxation coming into our sovereign counries. The introduction to the video The Power of Rights:
There are a lot of terms we throw around, but maybe we’ve forgotten the true meanings.
…I especially appreciate what they say starting at 2:40 — just who are the people we need protecting from? And at 3:06, I feel encouraged to keep speaking up on social media (I hope you do, too). At 4:12, a quick, eye-opening story about how it feels to be denied your human rights is all the reminder we should need to keep working on these issues.
Risk.net: Credit unions wish Fatca ‘did not exist’
A new article by Jessica Meek in Risk.net’s Operational Risk and Regulation examines how credit unions worldwide are being squeezed in the FATCA vise – whether they try to avoid it or not.
Credit unions wish Fatca ‘did not exist’
Fatca compliance burden stretching further
Credit unions will struggle to implement the US Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (Fatca), warns Michael Edwards, vice-president and chief counsel at the World Council of Credit Unions (Woccu).
The regulatory burden associated with Fatca and the intergovernmental agreements (IGAs) intended to enforce it at a government-to-government level mean that credit unions are hoping that Fatca will be repealed, Edwards says.
“Credit unions around the world would prefer it if Fatca did not exist, mostly because of the regulatory burdens associated with complying,” he says. “Even on the US side, even though the Fatca statute never mentioned US banks or credit unions, in order to collect information to share with the foreign governments that are going to be signing or have signed IGAs to implement Fatca, US credit unions and banks are likely to be subject to the same reporting requirements as foreign ones.”
Canada’s Complicity in the U.S. Surveillance State – Theo Caldwell, National Post
From James Jatras, for post at IsaacBrockSociety and Maple Sandbox:
Theo Caldwell says this will be in the print version of the NP tomorrow.
FATCA = Canadian complicity in US spying. It’s a great angle!
Theo Caldwell: Say No to Washington’s Surveillance State
CANADA’S COMPLICITY IN THE US SURVEILLANCE STATE – THEO CALDWELL, NATIONAL POST
In Canadian political debate, accusing one’s opponent of advocating “American-style” policies used to be the equivalent of launching a nuclear missile.
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Much has changed in recent years, however.
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From banking to taxes to travel to personal communications, Canada has signed on to the most appalling excesses of America’s growing surveillance state. The rationale is usually found among the catch-all phrases deployed to justify today’s creeping totalitarianism: the “War on Terror” or “keeping us safe” or the “War on Drugs” or “money laundering” or “tax evasion.”
New Permanent Page – Links to Articles Open for Commenting
I just created a new page of links to articles to facilitate our SWAT (Straight Words and Truth) Team in finding current media and blog articles that are open for commenting. Thanks to Em for the suggestion.
When you come across such an article, you can mention in the permanent page’s thread — or simply on any thread, as we’ve been doing all along, and I’ll copy the link to the permanent page.
You can locate this page in the Sidebar under the Take Action! header
Abolish FATCA Petition from Republicans Overseas is now online.
Another cross-post from Maple Sandbox: Abolish FATCA Petition from Replublicans Overseas Now Online
The actual link to this Petition is: https://www.abolishfatca.com/live/
I, a person who has now officially renounced and am no longer a US citizen, have signed and sent my *online signature* for this Petition. In my comment, I cited that my son, with a *mental incapacity*, and others like him, are “entrapped” into a *supposed* US citizenship and absurdly affected by this.
Note that you do not have to be a Republican or *even like them* to sign this important petition.
Note also that anyone who is not “IRS Compliant” and is afraid to sign this (because of more US-induced intimidation) should NOT sign — that is, unless you are so very, very angry about extra-territorial FATCA combined with US citizenship-based taxation and how it affects you, your family, your sovereign country and its very treasury. There is, of course, a risk of disclosure for you (a service of the US campaign of FEAR instilled into us).
From Republicans Overseas re privacy concerns:
We understand your concern. I knew political motivated reprisal since I grew up in Communist China. Each time I spoke up, the regime could make me to disappear in the night and my parents to pay for the bullet. When several RNC members and I founded this worldwide political organization called Republicans Overseas, one of our goals is to protect our overseas American citizens from the fear of political motivated reprisal like the IRS targeting tea party groups. We believe when you are organized and speak as one voice by voting, you bring the political cost to the equation of the IRS reprisal.
For your privacy concern, we offer an overseas American petitioner or a tea partier petitioner in this country to select a button which allows us to only use your initials and country or state on your petition when we publish all petitions and deliver them to Congress. Also we will only allow the third parties such as friendly but objective media organizations not government agencies to audit our petitions by a secure sampling process. This gives this petition drive more political credibility. Finally, no government agencies would take a possession of those signatures and addresses.
This method of petitioning is much safer for you than getting signatures on a street corner to put a ballot measure on a November election ballot. In the second case, the State Secretary of State Office would require the Chief Petitioner to submit all signatures with names and addresses for sampling. In this case, the State Secretary of State Office would take a possession of all petition signatures sheets. Nobody knows who is going through those sheets and copying them in the night.
I hope my email puts your concern for reprisal at ease. Thank you for contacting us.
Sincerely,
Solomon Yue, Jr.
Chief Sponsor of the RNC Resolution to repeal FATCA
Vice Chairman and CEO
Republicans Overseashttps://www.facebook.com/republicansoverseas
Canadian investment firm claims it is an “IRS withholding agent”
Allison Christians was right, Mr. Mahany: The annual cost of filing U.S. taxes can be “astronomical.” CORRECT!
IRS CompliantForever has entered an excellent post at Maple Sandbox. I am again cross-posting from there: Can Cross-Border Tax Professionals Prepare U.S. Tax Filing Return For Impoverished Canadian Brad Smith For Only $300?
IMPORTANT UPDATE, February 3, 2014:
WhiteKat, a close friend of Brad’s, is helping him contact Brain. Here is WhiteKat’s comment on behalf of Brad (Brad’s comment seemed to be blocked at TaxConnections.com for some reason) — and my reply: http://taxconnections.com/taxblog/cbc-distorts-fatca-facts/#comment-1027
WhiteKat
February 3, 2014 at 9:27 am
Mr. Mahany, Brad Smith asked me to post this because he seems to be blocked from your site. Can you help him please!Changed by the TaxConnections.com Administrator to: “Mr. Mahany, The gentlemen you spoke with earlier asked me to post this. Can you help him please!:“Brian, I called the two tax firms you recommended, but both quoted me three-four times your estimated $300 filing cost. I have practically no income and just a bit of savings. I’m getting seriously scared. I want to pay my fair share and even though I live in Canada I fear that IRS will arrest me and put me in jail.
These companies tell me that it will cost me a LOT of money to file past returns even though I owe no tax! Something is really wrong here. No way I’m a tax crook. I have hardly any money which is not my fault. What can I do? Brain, PLEASE HELP!”:
“Brian, I called the two tax firms you recommended, but both quoted me three-four times your estimated $300 filing cost. I have practically no income and just a bit of savings. I’m getting seriously scared. I want to pay my fair share and even though I live in Canada I fear that IRS will arrest me and put me in jail.
These companies tell me that it will cost me a LOT of money to file past returns even though I owe no tax! Something is really wrong here. No way I’m a tax crook. I have hardly any money which is not my fault. What can I do? Brain, PLEASE HELP!”
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calgary411
February 3, 2014 at 9:39 amAlthough many will not relate to Brad’s situation, there will, in fact, be countless so affected.
As McGill law professor, Allison Christians, points out in blog post “Citizenship-Based Taxation and Taxpayer Rights Don’t Mix”:
“It is another to say to other countries–and much less individuals in other countries–if people who live in your country have US status AS WE DEFINE IT, you are harboring potential criminals and you must help us find them and enforce our claim over them even if your government also claims them and even if our claim conflicts with your government’s own law.” … which is more “entitled USA” hogwash and US collateral damage to Brad and so many others, in the process destroying individuals and families.
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Recently, Mr. Brian Mahany on a TaxConnections Worldwide Tax Blog discussed costs of filing U.S. tax returns for duals living abroad and took issue with some statements on tax preparation fees made by Allison Christians in a CBC article.
Here is the CBC “Myth,” according to Mr. Mahany, followed by the Mahany “Fact”:
CBC “MYTH”: The annual cost of filing U.S. taxes can be “astronomical,” tax expert Allison Christians notes. Accounting firms estimate the cost of filing personal U.S. taxes can be anywhere from $500 to several thousand dollars.”
Mahany “FACT”: “I suppose if I were Bill Gates or Warren Buffet, the cost to prepare my tax return might be in the thousands. There are many very qualified CPA firms and expat tax services that prepare returns for dual nationals, including FBAR filings, for about $300. [We don’t prepare returns but can certainly send you to folks who do.]”
http://taxconnections.com/taxblog/cbc-distorts-fatca-facts/#.Uu6BlD1dWE4
I was also intrigued with Mr. Mahany’s statement that the U.S. has special rules on “trusts” such as RESP, RRSPs, and TFSAs, implying that these should be easy to deal with.
Several commenters took issue with Mahany, with one saying:
“Please, show me a competent accountant that will do a US tax return for $300 when RESPs. TFSAs, and Canadian mutual funds (outside of a RRSP) are involved. There is no such animal.”
I decided to pursue this question and asked Mr. Brad Smith, who might or might not be a composite character, to follow up with Mahany on this inexpensive $300 tax service. Brad is a 27 year old single Canadian resident and Canadian citizen living in Toronto who just discovered that he is a U.S citizen. Mr. Smith insists on entering into IRS tax compliance in order to pay, as he says, his “fair share”. He is unwilling to file returns on his own and refuses to renounce his new-found U.S. citizenship.
I selected Brad as he has a very simple tax situation: very low self-employment income ($19,000 annual), a single share of a Canadian mutual company (value $100), and $200 in a Canadian tax free savings account (TFSA).
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“The Journey” — steps we have gone through on our journey to rid ourselves of the now unfortunate taint of ‘US Personhood”
George has another excellent comment that must be posted. Here it is:
Morning Brockers;
Its good to read of your efforts in educating others: (Report #1 AND Report #2 AND Report #3). Those in attendance will tell others and so forth.
I made a list of what is probably all the steps we have gone through on our own paths. I am sure there are differences but in general terms.
Journey, one step in front of the other.1.) Decision to leave the homeland. Face possible concern and ridicule from friends and family in homeland.
2.) Apply for all the visas and other requirements to be a properly documented immigrant in your new land. Concern from homeland friends and family grows, they whisper about us.
3.) Spend years learning language, customs and become assimilated into your new home. Your allegiance is slowly transferred to your new home. Friends and family in the homeland think of you as the crazy relative locked up in the basement. They are somewhat embarrassed about us but figure we will come back saying what a mistake it was and how bad the health care system is and we ran away from the health care death panel.
4.) After a certain number of years you realize that you are no longer X but you have become Y. You fill out countless papers to be naturalised/registered as a new citizen. Christmas cards from the homeland are very light this year.
5.) The Big Day! Just like new immigrants to the USA are fully expected to become completely loyal to their new land, we/you do the same thing in our new land. Some of us in accordance with US Code as ordered changed by the US Supreme Court, intend that this action to be a relinquishing act.
Remaining proud to be an American, now proud to be a ______ Citizen, but no longer a US Citizen.
Or for others remaining proud to be an American, now proud to be a ______ Citizen, but no longer a US Citizen at least in respect to where you are living in accordance with the Master Nationality Act.
Christmas cards from the homeland grow in abundance because your homeland is where your heart is and that is where you are and your friends who are fellow citizens realize this. They no longer ask you if you are a tourist or when are you going home, didn’t you hate that. Or the question, are there things you miss?
6.) Carry about our lives in our home country. As a Citizen of X, living in X, I have only one citizenship recognized by Country X. You are calm, happy and at peace, probably the happiest you have ever been.
7.) At some point realize that our former country has established new laws or re-interpreted old ones that have absolutely no comparison to those in the countries of our sole allegiance or for some primary allegiance. Our newish countrymen look at us cross eyed when we explain what happened, they do not believe us.
8.) Panic, Fear, Health Problems
9.) Resolution. You realize that you are Canadian or French or _______, that you are not a US Citizen and have never acted like a US Citizen since becoming Canadian, French or German. Psychologically you are free at last, start sleeping again.
10.) Decision time. Do you appease those to the south (N/E/W)? For some it will make clear sense to get a CLN. For others it may look outright foolish to get a CLN. For some it will be a mixed bag.
11.) Final Sadness. All of us out of respect to the place we were raised in, or where we have family, or of a place we really never had ties but dreamed of it as that shining place on a hill, have great sadness that US Citizenship has become something that people want to get rid of like gum on a shoe. A place where when learning you might be a US Citizen is like a doctor telling you that you have a destructive disease. A place where you have become afraid to even visit again.
12.) Conclusion. Those with a CLN have some security but remain wondering if Congress or the Supreme Court will change the rules again and give them their citizenship back, something they do not want back. We have seen the rules changed too many times, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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