Another important document, US Joint Congressional Committee published report, from George:
Hello Brockers, another little ditty to download before they take it away;
This is part of a joint congressional committee published report. Others can probably dice this up better, but it might be nice to have in the file. Better yet, send it to your MP as a report to Congress pointing out that having a Certificate of Loss of Nationality (CLN) is not written into US Law. My guess is that would be the final breaking of the Expatriation Act 1868.
“There is no obligation for an individual to obtain a CLN or otherwise notify the Department of State of relinquishing ones citizenship.”
From part of a US joint congressional committee published report “84-288-GPO-CPRT-JC5-2-03-7-2, B. Aquisition and Loss of Citizenship”
@mjh, you now have the benefit of hindsight, be ever so thankful.
Many of us, based on prior practices and expectations and even prior law, simply assumed there was no urgency. We assumed we were dealing with rational and reasonable thinking.
Some of us took the US Code for its word and that it means what it says.
To be blunt, the US State Department should come out with a warning and advise anyone outside the homeland should not become a Dual and should relinquish their US Citizenship.
In fact all other countries on earth should warn its new citizens that if they have any link to the USA, they should immediately relinquish. Note to Brockers, another letter writing campaign to your MPs and immigration people.
The problem though is for people that based their lives on the way the law was written when they relinquished. Ten years ago, it was only amongst the enlightened that thought a CLN was a good thing to have so you could visit Disneyland on your proper passport! Thats why you read at IBS about people getting lectured by immigration when they drive over for a border shop.
No other western country on earth puts their duals or formers through such hoops. Thats why our problems fall on deaf ears and disbelief when we explain it to our governments.
In 10 years, I have no doubt that with your CLN in hand, there will be a new absurdity passed by Congress and you will be saying “but I have my CLN.”
But, your plan is a good plan and good advice for those coming up in the que.
I’m just learning as I go myself, and since I have to wait anyway, I may as well learn all that I can.
I figure that I have approximately three years to go still before I get to be Canadian, provided I apply for, and pass, the citizenship tests, and then take the oath. So, I’m not done learning. Not by a long shot. My ‘good plan’ as it is will no doubt be refined as the clock keeps ticking.
And as for the CLNs themselves, I have no doubt there is a growing black market in fake CLNs, (Didn’t I read about that from here somewhere?) and that the US will have to do something about it. Likely, that will mean invalidating those CLNs for tamperproof ones, which will also be tampered with, of course.
Of course, Form Nation is going to require a document that was never previously required at the bank or border. Expect log jams, as I’ve read somewhere that there’s only one person at the State Department issuing CLN’s. Can the US ever do ANYTHING that isn’t extremely messy and complicated? ALL of this just shines a brighter light on CBT as complicated, unfair and inhumane.