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MORE: Toronto, Friday – May 2nd, Forum / Debate on CBT (Citizenship-Based Taxation) vs. RBT (Residence-Based Taxation)

May 2 2014 ACA-Sponsored Toronto Forum / Debate on Citizenship-Based Taxation vs. Residence-Based Taxation (cross-post from Maple Sandbox.ca)

The American Citizens Abroad Global Foundation has launched its educational program with a forum/debate on the merits of Citizenship-based taxation vs. Residence-based taxation.

This is a full day event, sponsored and organized by the ACA (American Citizens Abroad), that will be held at the University of Toronto on May 2nd. Registration and Information

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‘This is the first public debate — worldwide — devoted to this important topic.’


Donation of US$50 prepaid with the reservation or C$60 cash only at the door.
Student discount – C$10 cash at the door with valid student ID

The speakers will include academic tax specialists Bernard Schneider and Michael Kirsh, who have different approaches to the taxation of US citizens abroad, with the program moderated by Toronto lawyer John Richardson.

Dr. Stephen Kish, who co-authored with Mr. Richardson a submission to the U.S. Senate Finance Committee (see below), will be the academic host.

Bernard Schneider:

The End of Taxation Without End: A New Tax Regime for U.S. Expatriates, Virginia Tax Review, Vol. 32, No. 1, 2012, http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2186076

Michael Kirsch:

Revisiting the Tax Treatment of Citizens Abroad: Reconciling Principle and Practice, October 23, 2013, Florida Tax Review, (Forthcoming), Notre Dame Legal Studies Paper No. 1457, http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2346458

Richardson/Kish:

John Richardson, Willard Yates, Stephen Kish, Request for Tax Rules Changes for U.S. Citizens Overseas: Submission to the Senate Finance Committee, January 2014, http://citizenshipsolutions.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/RichardsonYatesKishJan232014SFCSubmission.pdf

Keynote Speakers
Prof. Michael S. Kirsch, Professor of Law, Notre Dame Law School

Dr. Bernard Schneider, Teaching Fellow, Centre for Commercial Law Studies, Queen Mary University of London School of Law

Phil D.W. Hodgen, International Tax Attorney, Hodgen Law Group PC, Pasadena, CA

David Kuenzi, Certified Financial Planner,® Founder, Thun Financial Advisors, Madison, WI

Charles W. Cullen III, Certified Financial Planner, ® RBC Dominion Securities, Inc., Halifax, NS

Neil Sinclair, Chapter Chair, Amcham Canada – Ontario Region

Closing comments: Jackie Bugnion, American Citizens Abroad, Inc., Director of Tax Team

 

Originally published on April 23, 2014

156 thoughts on “MORE: Toronto, Friday – May 2nd, Forum / Debate on CBT (Citizenship-Based Taxation) vs. RBT (Residence-Based Taxation)

  1. Thanks Samuel Adams. I sent an email to Anne Hornung-Soukup and got an almost immediate reply. Communication is key and that was done in Anne’s promptness. We have more to learn though on when we can expect to see the end product. Stay tuned.

    I’m so sorry this is taking so long ! The video was 6 or 8 hours long, and our small volunteer staff has had a hard time cutting it down so it can even be distributed – not that we wanted to cut content but a video that long just takes so much bandwidth and is so offputting that we thought it would actually detract from the message.

    We also discovered from the guy who filmed it that we should have given him more precise directions on how it would be used, and we didn’t (we obviously don’t have that much experience with videotaping conferences but believe me, we’re learning !). He would have interviewed the speakers individually and had them sum up their talks so we wouldn’t have to edit many hours of tape to get the nuggets of info that they communicated.

    I assure you that there is no conspiracy of silence here, just a limited number of overwhelmed volunteers and many hours of interesting tape.

    I’ll ask the Director, MaryLouise, what the timing is on distributing it, and I’ll let you know.

    Thanks for the message, I know we’re way behind on this but we really have a lot of irons in a lot of fires and the year has been intense, to say the least.

    And, thanks Anne!

    Are there any suggestions from anyone here on how anyone else might help? — not that we’ve been asked.

  2. @ calgary411
    Okay I’ll take my snarky remarks back. Good for you for getting this promising update. Deckard1138 would be the one to get suggestions from.

  3. I don’t take my snarky comments back.

    The FATCA Forum was also six or more hours. Deckard taped it and posted it almost instantly in several segments. People can choose to watch whichever part of it they want.

    Six months is inexcusable. Deckard and I edited days of Finance Committee hearings to make the ADCS video in a few days. He is a professional videographer. I have no experience or training in the field.

    So I fail to see why it is taking a professional so long. The easiest solution initially would have been for Deckard to do it. The easiest solution now is to release the raw footage of the debates. They can use the FATCA Forum model to see how it really isn’t difficult and how effective the total package is.

  4. I agree with Blaze. It is better to be 70% right and on-time than 100% and too late.

    Just get the damn video out there!

  5. I have not heard back further to above correspondence with Anne Hornung-Soukup, so I have just sent a follow-up email, suggesting Anne arrange to have ACA Global Foundation send the video to Stephen Kish, uncut / no editing, which we do not have a problem with (we certainly don’t know their parameters for the edits or why there need to be any except for their reason of too long and requiring too much bandwidth). Hopefully I will get a positive response.

    In the meantime, here is a media video of ACA Executive Director, MaryLouise Serrato, including glowing reports of the May Tax Symposium held in Toronto: https://americansabroad.org/news-and-events/radio-interviews-us-taxes/. Pity there is not a video available.

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