Posted on February 27, 2012 by geeez Posted in Issues regarding US persons abroad 9 Comments Sample DS-160 This was harder to find than I thought it would be. I can’t see any potential complications for my kids. When my wife applies, she’ll just say my non-US nationality. Notice the 3-4th to the last question from the bottom. Sigh. Share this:TwitterFacebookEmailLike this:Like Loading...
They want all of that just for a tourist visa? Surreal. Check out what I had to fill out for a Russian visa for comparison:
If I had used a US passport though they would have had me fill this out (Note: You could not pay me to travel to Russia or many other countries in the world with a US passport!):
@Don — too funny! I have a feeling that the Russians did that on purpose to play the same game that the Americans play.
We do, on a daily basis, what most continental-Americans can not imagine: We live in places where the cultures and languages are different. I could write a “companion” dictionary for all of the words that I know that are not in the “official” dictionaries. Gosh.. my whole life.. nothing but adventure and beautiful women. I’m too young to sue Albert Broccoli, unfortunately.. but if they need any help, I will be happy to “donate” experiências de graça (for free)!
I’m STILL dying to hear the local State´s employees speaking Portuguese to know if mine is better than theirs. I will shoot myself in the head with a champagne bottle if State’s employees know more than me! But that’s very unlikely.
Unfortunately, the USA is a very insular/NOT WORLDLY country so we have to renounce. Yeah, it’s stupid, but that’s life. Like I said in a different post, if I renounce, do you possibly think that my relatives who have known me since I was born, will treat me like a foreigner??? Commom get real… u stupid department. I don’t return because I’m some idiot monolingual. My 90% familty is here. Only 10% for the USA.
As Petros advised in a posting he made last Dec: Don’t RENOUNCE, if at all possible! Tho’ it’s probably harder to do (document to DoS satisfaction!), ‘RELINQUISH’ instead. Then that 3rd from last question won’t be such a problem…
Interesting that the Russians only ask if you have a communicable disease if you are coming from the US. Maybe they are worried that unfettered capitalism is contageous.
As most of us are not renouncing due to tax reasons but more as a result of FUBAR and FATCAT, I would have no problem answering “no.” And don’t see how any US govt agency could view otherwise as I don’t owe any taxes. Irritating to be asked, for sure but for us minnows, don’t really see this as an automatic problem.
But in the application to get permission to visit the US with a permit from a visa-waiver country they have now (for applications from 22 Dec 2011 onwards) insisted on listing place of birth so they can obviously more easily root out former US citizens. I fear they could make it a lot more difficult for renunciants to visit America.
I take it that you haven’t been to Russia lately 😛
“Unfettered Capitalism” has already made its way to Russia and is on display everywhere in Moscow and St. Petersburg. There is a flat 13% income tax rate no matter what your income level is and both cities are positively swimming in cash. I’ve never seen so many mink coats, designer clothes, Mercedes Benz, limosines, or even Humvee limosines concentrated in a single place in my life before. That being said, they still have a more comprehensive healthcare system than the US does and everyone is covered!
@Mona, I’m not quite sure what I’m going to do now. If the FATCA gets implemented here, I will run (not walk) to the nearest consulate and renounce. My date to deliver my citizenship papers has been confirmed– next month sometime, I forgot the actual date. IF my paperwork gets processed quickly, I will relinquish because it’s cheaper and it will offet the travel costs to going to the consulate.
Renounce/relinquish. Some people think that they are different, but they are BOTH the voluntary surrender of your US citizenship. The only difference to me is the cost.
@Don, some may say that is due to corruption in Russia. I think the Russian PPI is slightly under that of Brazil at this time. But flat taxes seem to work wonders! It’s amazing how these “young” countries implement a FLAT tax and it seems to work wonders for them.
Still the idea of the US being the place to immigrate to to work is a joke to me. I saw a kid yesterday with a Samsung Galaxy II showing it to someone else. That phone costs R$ 1.900 Reais here, or USD $1,117.00 dollars (due to High taxes!). I see tons of people driving around in cars that cost double what they cost in the US. I know several people in this small town that would be classified as millionaires in America. Yeah, and this is small town “3rd world” Brazil. I think there’s money everywhere. The trick is tapping into the stream.
Going back to America and getting into the grind/rat race is the LAST thing that I want to do.