Liberty and justice for all United States persons abroad

Dominant nationality and why it matters

Dual nationality exists when two or more nations claim jurisdiction over an individual.  This may lead to disputes between the nations claiming the allegiance of the person, requiring that international law settle the matter.  This has led to the doctrine of dominant nationality.

See also:
Dual Citizenship and National Laws
Dominant nationality protects individuals from state overreach
Dual citizenship and forced marriages, by Alison Symington

In a forthcoming article of Emory International Law Review (25) 2012, “Dueling nationalities, Dominant and Effective Nationality, and the case of Anwar al-Auluqi”, Abraham U. Kannof argues that the United States should be able under the law to exterminate terrorists like “Anwar al-Aulaqi”.  He was a dual Yemeni-US citizen when the United States took him out with an armed drone in September 2011.  In such cases, according to Kannof, the United States could treat a belligerent like al-Aulaqi as a dominant and effective citizen of Yemen, and  no longer under the protection of the United States, and therefore al-Aulaqi’s Constitutional  rights, such as the right not to be deprived of life and liberty without due process of the law, no longer count.

Kannof argues further that the United States also recognizes this international convention of dominant and effective nationality.  Indeed, I was able to find quickly a Department of Justice memo, that suggests that dominant nationality could help determine if a person should be allowed to work in jobs for which the law requires a US citizenship and loyalty to the US, in cases where the applicant is a dual citizen of a country for which there is no exemption.

What determines Dominant Nationality?  An American woman, Mrs. Strunsky Merge, tried to get reparations from the Republic of Italy to recover damages to her property during WWII; the court denied her claim, because she was a dual national thanks to her Italian husband–the court determined her dominant nationality to be Italian, and therefore she was not entitled to any recovery of damages under the terms of the peace treaty.  Kannof writes (p. 118):

In that same year [1955], the Mergé Claim gave the principal statement of the doctrine of dominant and effective nationality. There, the Italian-U.S. Conciliation Commission “looked to general principles of international law for resolution to the issue of dual nationality,” finding that “the sovereign equality of States . . . must yield before the principle of effective nationality whenever such nationality is that of the claiming State.”  The Commission established considerations by which an individual’s nationality would be evaluated, including “habitual residence, [t]he conduct of the individual in his economic, social, political, civic and family life, as well as the closer and more effective bond with one of the two States.”

Now, Kannof (p. 123) argues that the dominant and effective nationality test should have many uses outside of the context of international arbitration of disputes, including the assassination of United States home-grown terrorists.  I argue that it has important ramifications for dual citizens crossing the United States border, US extraterritorial taxation, FBAR and FATCA. The concept of dual citizenship is inadequate when it comes to determining the issues that we are facing.  We need to insist upon the doctrine of dominant nationality in the following cases:
(1) When crossing the border.  A person born in the United States but who is a resident and citizen of Canada must have the right to travel to the United State with a Canadian passport because he or she has dominant and effective Canadian citizenship. If the United States could decide unilaterally that it can assassinate a US citizen, then we need to insist upon the protection of Canada, and not travel with a US passport–insisting further, that as having dominant and effective Canadian citizenship, that we have the right and the duty to travel on a Canadian passport.

(2) When paying taxes.  Canada says it will not collect US taxes from Canadian citizens. If you are living in Canada and you are Canadian citizen, you should not have to pay taxes or file to IRS, because your dominant nationality is Canadian.  The IRS cannot collect any taxes that they may assign to a Canadian citizen resident in Canada, unless they can establish lien on a property or bank account that is in the United States.  Get your assets out of the United States, and legally, you don’t have to file, because your dominant nationality is Canadian.  But in any case, if the USA could potentially assassinate you because your dominant nationality is not US, then I don’t see why you should have to file a 1040.

(3) When threatened with FBAR and FBAR penalties.  The Canadian government says it will not collect FBAR penalties.  But those dual citizens with dominant Canadian nationality do not fall under the FBAR law (Bank Secrecy Act), which very clearly states who must file:  “Each person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States”.  Well, a person with dominant Canadian nationality does not fall under the jurisdiction of the United States but that of Canada.  I’m sorry Mr. Geithner, but dual citizens living in Canada don’t have to file.  This is clear under international law; and the FBAR law likewise supports this point.  So why don’t you just change the rules already to reflect that fact.  I urge dual citizens in Canada and abroad to assert your dominant nationality and refuse to file FBARs.

(4) FATCA :  When the bank asks you to cede your rights as a Canadian, just simply tell them that your dominant and effective nationality is Canadian.  Pull out the law article by Kannof if they don’t know what that is (they won’t).

The doctrine of dominant nationality under international law could indeed have important ramifications for our problem.  It is perhaps also a better solution for many dual citizens of the US and another nation, in particular those who do not want to relinquish their citizenship.  It is also the practical and common sense solution.  And that is why the United States government will fight it tooth and nail.

(I wish to thank our own Victoria for first alerting me to the doctrine of dominant nationality.  Also this is a research in progress and I would appreciate any help in refining the arguments here.)

81 thoughts on “Dominant nationality and why it matters

  1. You’re right — elegant and COMMON SENSE.

    Thanks for injecting this concept into the conversation!!!

  2. see the treaty linked here http://www.fin.gc.ca/treaties-conventions/USA_-eng.asp
    and go to Article XXVI-A “Assistance in Collection” section 8 which states
    “No assistance shall be provided under this Article for a revenue claim in respect of a taxpayer to the extent that the taxpayer can demonstrate that
    (a) where the taxpayer is an individual, the revenue claim relates to a taxable period in which the taxpayer was a citizen of the requested State”

    This is the section which has been referenced both by Jim Flaherty (in a letter sent to Ms. Denise Savoie MP-Victoria and reporduced on her website with his signature on it) and in quotes by a named Canada Revenue Agency official in at least one media article a couple of months ago, the one I saw was in Financial Post.

    The treaty is VERY clear on this point. And it’s any tax revenue claim, it isn’t limited to penalties, at least not to my reading of the treaty.

  3. The tax obligation had to be in existence during the citizen’s time of residence in the U.S. Canada has no treaty obligations to collect tax obligations that may be incurred after residency in the U.S. was given up.

    It is completely discretionary if Canada should chose to take such an action. However it is unlikely that such action would succeed because Canadian courts have usually prevented such things because to do so would be an infringe Canadian sovereignty.

  4. I came across this article when browsing through some magazines and sure enough it’s on the website too. This may interest some of you.

    The article is titled “In praise of a second (or third) passport” from the Economist.

    http://www.economist.com/node/21542413

    The section I found most interesting in terms of what we’re discussing here is this:

    “The wrong response to this (multicple citizenship) is political protectionism, with states forcing citizens to choose one nationality only, or hampering their right to multiple passports. This seems an odd approach, given that citizenship is so easily acquired. In some countries it is, in effect, on sale. In others, such as America, it may be an accident of birth, with no conscious choice involved. Rather than making a fetish out of passports, a better approach would be to use residence (especially tax residence) as the main criterion for an individual’s rights and responsibilities. That encourages cohesion and commitment, because it stems from a conscious decision to live in a country and abide by its rules. The world is gradually moving in this direction. But many states (mostly poor and ill-run) resist the trend and some rich democracies like the Netherlands and Germany are trying to curb it (see article), offering a variety of excuses.”

  5. Nice find. I think that people want mobility and protection. Government wants subjects who pay taxes. The two are not always compatible because we often need protection from government.

  6. Excellent piece of news there, Petros. It logically is most reasonable. When I was young the definition of an offshore bank account was, and I am paraphrasing,; is a bank account that is held by an American with a foreign domiciled financial institution. How the U.S. can say that I have an offshore bank account when I live in the same country as where my bank account is located is not logical.

    It actually is illegal for a U.S. person to have a U.S. based bank account if the address listed on the account is not a U.S. address. So what is their problem? It seems like a lot of overkill to have FATCA and have this law too.

    It would do me absolutely no good to have a U.S. based bank account unless I was spending time in the U.S. But even then why would I need one? When my Canadian bank will set up a U.S. denominated account for me that I can use anytime I am over the border.

  7. “It actually is illegal for a U.S. person to have a U.S. based bank account if the address listed on the account is not a U.S. address. ”

    It is not illegal to have a US bank account if you live in Canada. I have had one for years. They send my monthly statement to my Canadian address. Where did you find this information?

  8. zucchero81,
    That’s a great story. I wish there were some way to get these stories told before Congress so that they could understand how much confusion there is around this. I go into Paris on occasion and I talk to American friends there and even with all the news around FATCA folks are terribly confused and afraid. Almost everyone would like to get compliant but they don’t know how. And everyone is afraid to talk to the Paris IRS office for fear that they are going to come up on the IRS radar, get audited and get hit with fines. (Most of these folks are English teachers for chrissakes and won’t owe any taxes.) I got an email a few months ago that said that FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME in the history of the American diaspora in Paris (200+ years), the Paris IRS office was auditing Americans in France. Scared the beejesus out of everyone.

  9. Here are a couple of very good books about modern citizenship if anyone is interested in delving into it:

    International Migration in the Age of Crisis and Globalization by Andres Solimano (2010).

    International Migration and Citizenship Today by Niklaus Steiner (2009).

    Citizenship Today: Global Perspectives and Practices edited by T. Alexander Aleinikoff and Douglas Klusmeyer (2001).

    Beyond Citizenship by Peter Spiro (2008)

    The Aleinikoff is best for a global perspective. For the EU see Marc Morje Howard. For the US perspective see Peter Spiro.

    The entire list can be found here http://thefranco-americanflophouse.blogspot.com/2011/06/flophouse-citizenship-international.html

  10. Oops, I wasn’t looking closely. I see that zucchero81 already posted that link at JANUARY 7, 2012 AT 7:25 PM . Oh well, so now you know it is doubly important… 🙂

    The other interesting quote that I take from this is:

    “But countries that want to clamp down on tax evasion, protect their national language, or deter such foreign customs as forced marriage, should do so through specific laws tailored to these ends, rather than relying on the symbolic power of citizenship. America’s policy of taxing its citizens wherever they live seems especially perverse; it is an accountants’ charter. As for benefits, residency is surely the key.”

    mvh

  11. The UK considers me a UK citizen and resident but nonetheless still US tax-domiciled. I thus doubt if they would offer me any protection from double taxation or fbar fines…The US and UK would thus argue that while I msy have dual nstionslity, my primary dominant nationality is still American … So, unlike Canada, I don’t believe US citizens will be offered any protection over here in the UK unless perhaps they’d been born in the UK.

    The only way to change that would be to fully renounce my USC. Thus, I am still deemed primarily a US citizen in spite of my dual nationality. And I’m sure the US would agree.

  12. “The UK considers me a UK citizen and resident but nonetheless still US tax-domiciled. I thus doubt if they would offer me any protection from double taxation or fbar fines…”

    An interesting, but specious, argument. The English (and Scottish, although that may be slightly different) law of domicile assigns to a person at birth his or her father’s domicile at that time. Changing domicile is far more difficult than the simple act of moving as under the domicile laws of American states. But it is also irrelevant to cross-border taxation. Domicile is relevant to UK taxation of estates, to taxation of unremitted unearned (investment) income abroad. But only insofar as the Treaty provides in tie-breaker provisions, to the rules of cross-border taxation.

    It is not for the UK to offer “protection” from taxation or fines, but for the English (etc.) courts to decline to enforce them. And ever since Her Majesty Queen in Right of Province of British Columbia v. Gilbertson, 597 F.2d 1161 (9th Cir. 1979) it has been IRS policy not to appear before a foreign court. For one thing, voluntarily appearing abroad forfeits their sovereign immunity and binds them to a foreign court’s determination of US tax law. You can find the English-law rules regarding foreign tax claims in the book Dicey, Morris & Collins on Conflict of Laws (14th ed. 2006, vol. 2 at p. 105; but the page will be different in the 2010 ed.)

    As for the concept of “dominant nationality” the real term is “effective nationality” and it’s an obsolete concept. Since the War, nationality has become more a bearer of rights than of obligations, military and tax and, for some civil-law countries “personal law” of status — and marriage, divorce, etc. — are attached to nationality. With special rules for those with more than one. And within the EU/EEA/Switzerland it would seem that since Micheletti v. Delegación del Gobierno en Catabria, [1992] E.C.R. I-4239 one EU member state must recognise possession of the EU status of any citizen regardless of the old “effective nationality” principle.

    On the question “if EU law trumps nation-state treaties on this question” generally a statute trumps a prior treaty provision. That’s the basis on which the AMT was held to trump prior treaties, but it’s a longstanding rule. The EU has made derogations to certain laws, such as those relating to trade treaties; and tax treaties are still largely outside the bailiwick of EU law. But the ECHR (not a part of EU law directly, but EU states must apply it) is a kind of constitutional law, a superlaw that would, in my opinion, supersede a conflicting tax treaty rule. Anyway the French mutual collection provisions haven’t so far as I am aware, been applied to date, and they are far weaker than the Canadian one. The various U.S. treaty collection provisions are discussed in IRS Chief Counsel Advisory 199919034 dated Aug. 6, 1999, discussing the application of IRC § 6330 to levies made for treaty partners. Bruce Zagaris is a tax lawyer who has written on the subject.

  13. @punktlich11

    Well, obviously you have a legal background and training and seem very well schooled on these matters, with the many sited references adding an air of authority. That said, in some cases I am not sure what you have said, so will have to read it again. Not having a legal mind, it takes me longer to absorb concepts I have never heard about before, but I do appreciate you taking the time to challenge me on subjects I would never heretofore had an interest or inclination to understand. For that I thank. Now.. I think I will go back and read what you said again. 🙂

    Cheers

  14. @JustMe

    In case you are curious in Canada the Charter of Rights and Freedoms does trump treaty law and in fact has be ruled to do specifically in a case Chua which involved none other than an attempt for the IRS to impose a collection on a resident of Canada.

  15. *This might be a valid position to take if you never plan to travel to the U.S. again, but what happens if I don’t file and then decide to take a trip to go hiking in the Appalachians? What if I cross the border? Even if I travel on my Canadian passport, it states my U.S. place of birth. I don’t owe any taxes and feel the FBAR reporting is an invasion of privacy, but will I get harassed at the border? Also, does voting in U.S. elections affect the determination of dominant nationality?

  16. @Kristin,

    Welcome.  You ask some good questions that many of the Canadians here have been dealing with a lot.  Hopefully they will see your entry here, but there are many other comments related to your questions on the relinquish thread, which at over 860 comments does seem daunting.  I would move your question over there, as they watch it carefully and respond pretty quickly!  🙂

  17. @Kristin: What if I cross the border? Even if I travel on my Canadian passport, it states my U.S. place of birth.”

    That is, indeed an issue: persons who travel with foreign passports that show a U.S. place of birth are, if the border guard notices it, asked to explain why they think they are exempt from the requirement of presenting a U.S. passport. Those who have renounced U.S. nationality are advised to bring proof that; those who were born in the U.S. to accredited foreign diplomats usually can explain this; if the issue is in question the State Department Protocol Office has a record. (Where the diplomat’s spouse is a U.S. citizen the child will be, complicating the issue.)

    Unlike many countries, the U.S. does not know who all its citizens are. Indeed, qualifying U.S. residence (or status as dependent of USG employee abroad) needs to be proven in the case of citizens born abroad. And for nonmarital children, one year of uninterrupted physical presence in the U.S. Many of these foreign-born children are never registered with a U.S. consular office: they are in fact U.S. citizens but no laws or obligations can be enforced against them because their status is unknown to the USG. There is a number of cases addressing such matters, chiefly relating to births in Mexico where the State Department has disputed claimed facts of (usually maternal) prior residence. Given the state of U.S. tax law, one wonders whether it is anymore advantageous for parents to register the births of their foreign-born children when no future residence in the U.S. is contemplated. Better to save the elements of proof for some possible future occasion if the child has a perfectly useful non-U.S. passport.

    And as for passports of “accidental Americans” born in the U.S. to Canadian and other foreign parents: AFAIK only Swiss passports show “place of origin” (i.e. Swiss commune of ancestry or declared “Heimat” or “Bürgerschaft”) and not place of birth. And all foreign-born U.S. citizens would pass casual examination at the border. On the other hand, if a person is known to the USG, it is possible that a scan of the passport (encoded data or chip) would show previous entries and other USG status notes. 

    The question remains to what degree border guards have been enlisted in the enforcement of U.S. tax laws. Presumably non-criminal issues cannot cause a traveler to be held. I have heard of, but never confirmed, stories of travelers being advised upon entry that there is an issue with the IRS. In the era of FATCA and in an atmosphere where foreign residence and foreign assets of U.S. citizens is looked upon as implicitly disloyal and where such persons have no constituency in Washington, I wonder what the future holds.

  18. @punktlich11

    The question remains to what degree border guards have been enlisted in the enforcement of U.S. tax laws. Presumably non-criminal issues cannot cause a traveler to be held. I have heard of, but never confirmed, stories of travelers being advised upon entry that there is an issue with the IRS. In the era of FATCA and in an atmosphere where foreign residence and foreign assets of U.S. citizens is looked upon as implicitly disloyal and where such persons have no constituency in Washington, I wonder what the future holds.

    What the future hodls?
    The question, of course, needs to be to what degree border guards WILL BE ENLISTED in the enforcement of US tax laws. We have continuing evidence of the US changing law, and retroactively. I think all points to the fact that things will one day change and tax information will be readily available right there at the border crossing. Advancing technology will make it easy. (My thoughts with the caveat that I am one who was intimidated by a US border guard into obtaining a US passport.)

  19. *@calgary411

    “intimidated by a US border guard into obtaining a US passport”?

    Perhaps I missed something and I haven’t time to read the history of the thread. But everyone who is a US citizen must arrive and depart the USA with a US travel document. As I said, there are thousands who are US citizens but have never documented that fact, or their status is in doubt. One wonders whether, assuming they live abroad and have no need of US nationality, why they should establish it.

    Retrospective legislation is common in taxation. It is otherwise unconstitutional and contrary to natural justice: except of course that it gets taken into penal law as tax evasion. Also crimes associated with “terrorism” evade constitutional and human rights limits.

    The massive use of digitised data and the public’s failure to object is frightening. Now read this: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/

    Then there’s the story of Ronald Anderson:  http://uniset.ca/other/news/wp_ronaldanderson.html

    Border guards are unlikely to enforce civil liability. But the data they collect on travellers’ comings and goings may well be shared on government networks as these networks become modernised and interconnected. 

  20. @punklich11

    Re: “intimidated by a US border guard into obtaining a US passport”? Perhaps I missed something and I haven’t time to read the history of the thread. But everyone who is a US citizen must arrive and depart the USA with a US travel document.

    Yes, that is US law (and as I think Steven Mopsick said — the law is the law). However, we find that sometimes US law is the law and sometimes US law is not the law, with US border guards generally ignoring that one for decades. Below are just a few comments, examples of often discussed topic here.

    It is my conclusion that I was intimidated (stupid me!) and I continue to wonder why this isn’t some kind of a precedent. From ‘my story’ https://isaacbrocksociety.ca/2011/12/14/my-story-calgary411/:

    In 2008 I was made aware that the rules had changed (without anyone from the U.S. giving me any notification or a choice to opt in or opt out) — I was still a U.S. citizen and was not in compliance with filing U.S. tax returns. The Canadian accountant that I had used for so many years and who knew that I was born in the States referred me to a Calgary cross-border accounting firm as he was not trained or licensed to deal with doing my back U.S. returns. It was confirmed by that respected cross-border accounting firm that I was required to back file and so at that time they helped me make a ‘quiet disclosure’ for three years of returns and FBARs. I am presently six years compliant.
    Earlier this year I talked with an immigration lawyer who confirmed that I had absolutely relinquished my U.S. citizenship when I became a Canadian citizen. But, this was negated by my filing of back U.S. tax returns and FBARs. To add another layer, I had taken to heart a conversation with a U.S. Border Guard who told me during a crossing that the next time I entered the States from Canada I was to use only a U.S. passport – so I applied for and received my first U.S. passport in January of 2009.blockquote>

    Some other comments regarding crossing the border on a Canadian passport with US place of birth:

    I understand your concerns about being able to visit your children in US. There does not seem to be any restriction presently, but who knows what will happen in future. I relinquished 40 years ago when I became a Canadian citizen. In four decades, I have had no problem crossing the border. I now fear US may at some point prevent me from visiting my 89 year old mother who is in failing health.

    I was told once I should enter as a US citizen. On another occasion, I was told to get a US passport. I have not followed that advice. I have had no problems crossing since then. However, after my elderly mother’s death, I will never again cross the US border. We have had more reports here of people having no problems crossing than we have had of problems. I am not aware of anyone denied entry (or worse) for traveling on a Canadian passport with a US place of birth.
    A couple of weeks ago, I crossed the border at a land crossing. My Canadian passport shows an American place of birth. I had absolutely no problem crossing the border.

    US ENTRY: We have had some reports of problems entering US on a Canadian or other passport with US place of birth. We have had, however, had more reports of no problems entering either by land or air.
    I was told in 2004 by a NEXUS Officer I am still a US citizen. She and I had a discussion which concluded with her telling me I should always enter as a US citizen. She said if I did that, I would not be required to say how long I was staying, where I was going or the purpose of my trip. (I think she was truly trying to be helpful).
    Fortunately, I didn’t fall into that trap after I learned that if I enter as a US citizen and I get into any difficulty in the US, I can be denied access to Canadian consular officials. If I had gotten a US passport or a US NEXUS card, I would be in the same nightmare now that Calgary is in.

    Between 2004 and 2011, I crossed two or three times a year with my Canadian passport or NEXUS card with no problem. In September, 2011, the border guard politely told me I “should” get a US passport. I smiled, nodded and went on my way.
    I was expecting possible problems the next time I crossed. Instead, the border guard looked at my Canadian passport with US place of birth, looked at the computer (I was thinking “Here it comes”), asked me where I live and where I was going and waved me on. Not even questions about purpose of trip, how long staying or goods to declare.
    So, I think the only thing we know for certain is that nothing at the border is certain or consistent. I will continue to cross on my Canadian passport until they deny me the right to enter. I will not get a US passport.
    After my elderly mother’s death, I will be like Joe Smith and others. I will–as Petros recommends–”get my ass and my assets out of the US.” My assets are already out and my ass is out most of the time. That’s a loss for the US economy, but not for me.

    Some of us (myself included) have crossed recently on our Canadian passport with US place of birth with absolutely no problem. Only once in 45 years of crossing have I been told I “should” get a U.S. passport. On the next trip, there was no problem and no mention of a U.S. passport.
    I would be interesting to have a thread on who has and hasn’t had a problem crossing.
    I know Calgary’s nightmare began when she got a U.S. passport after being told she should. I think Canuck Doc may also have been told she needed a U.S. passport (although I’m not certain of that).
    Someone was told he would stop being a U.S. citizen when U.S. told him he was no longer a U.S. citizen.
    Other than that, I think most crossings (by both land and air) have been pretty uneventful. That’s not to say things won’t change, but–for those of us who for family, personal or business reasons need to go to U.S.–I think it’s important to know what the actual numbers and experiences are before we panic too much.

    Border crossings become a flip of the coin. Usually my husband has no problem crossing into the USA, certainly he has never had to produce papers for his American mother who he visits frequently. However, one time it appeared the border guards were questioning his sanity about being an American living in Canada — that can’t be, no American would live in Canada, type of thing. Anyway there must have been something pretty extreme about their attitude because my husband, the epitome of patience, said he had the strongest urge (which he resisted) to slam the fingers of the two guards hovering over him in the car door (window rolled down was not enough, it was open the door and step out that day). This was not a major crossing either, only 3 cars there at the time, so maybe the guys were bored and thought putting up a bad attitude would give themselves a jolt. If my husband didn’t have to go there he wouldn’t.

    @renouncecitizenship
    Your post of 10:43 A.M. – again, such good advice. The problem, as I see it is, as yet, border guards have only been told ‘if born in the u.s., then they are u.s.’. They may question you, they may even hassle you, but they still will let you into the country. One friend who crossed at Vancouver airport recently, was told by the border guard “look, lady, you are an American until we tell you otherwise”. This after she explained that she had relinquished U.S. citizenship in 1980. However, bottom line is she did get through and caught her plane
    I will be crossing at a land crossing toward the end of this month. I plan on having with me the copy of my Canadian citizenship record. In that record, there is a ‘renuciatory oath’, signed by me. Of course, I am hoping that all goes smoothly and I am not questioned. But another part of me hopes they do question me. I would like to ‘educate’ the border guard by showing him that renunciatory oath.

    I did not mean for my response to be superficial. If she is not in any US data bases as a US citizen, she should try to avoid getting into any. So far I have heard no cases of US immigration turning back a Canadian citizen whose passport indicates that the person was born in the US, but there is no guarantee that this might not happen, because US law is very clear that US citizens are required to enter and leave the US using a US passport. I would hate to be a Canadian born in the US crossing into the US on the first day someone with authority in the US decreed that this law would start being enforced.

    Other Comments:

    @Schubert,
    Regarding your caution, that is the exact scenario I don’t want to encounter at the border. It is unlikely that my son (with a developmental disability) would be crossing with anyone else but me, his mother, born in the US, even though his Canadian passport shows that he was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
    [This example and not being able to benefit the same as other Canadians from his Registered Disability Savings Plan and his Tax Free Savings Accounts, discriminately, makes him (and me — and so many others) a second-class Canadian.] If you’re hearing an echo, yes, I am repeating myself — again. Sorry.

    @Calgary411
    You’re exactly right to be concerned about crossing the US border with your son, and I appreciate that’s the only way he’s likely going across the border — with you. This is really sad, and infuriating. I don’t want to think what it would have been like for you and him if you’d been the ones in that car a few weeks ago at Massena NY. (In case anyone was wondering what border crossing to watch out for, add that one to Blaine Washington …)

    And, I certainly agree with your comment: “Border guards are unlikely to enforce civil liability. But the data they collect on travellers’ comings and goings may well be shared on government networks as these networks become modernised and interconnected.”

  21. **@calgary411

    “Earlier this year I talked with an immigration lawyer who confirmed that I had absolutely relinquished my U.S. citizenship when I became a Canadian citizen. “

    It’s easy to get sidetracked with anecdotal stuff. Whether you “relinquished” your US nationality depends on when you were naturalised in Canada. Whether you acquiesced to the restoration your US nationality (by the Vance v Terrazas and Afryim v Rusk Supreme Court decisions) by availing yourself of an “attribute” of US nationality is a more complex question. For purposes of US taxation, that is the rule: Rev. Rul. 75-357, PLR 8138071.

    Fairness or unfairness has little to do with the law. And the decision (or negligence) by a border guard or a prosecutor or other government official to waive a violation of law or a discrepancy does not compromise either the law itself or the rights of the Government to enforce its law (and its secondary law, i.e. rules published in the Federal Register) at some future time.

    There are said to be one million dual US-Canadian nationals living in Canada. For most, their US nationality is an irrelevance: only those living near the border who cross into the US have a problem. Think of Stanstead QC/Derby Line VT (the public library & opera house is right on the border, which is virtually the main street of the towns). There are cameras everywhere and a person coming from Canada who wanders into the USA except to use the library is liable to find a border agent approaching him to remind him to go first to the immigration station, actually located some distance from the border. Point Roberts, Wash. is another interesting conflict area, for other reasons: http://articles.latimes.com/2002/jun/09/news/adna-point

    The tax complications of accidental and/or unwanted US nationality don’t need to be re-hashed here. Suffice to say that the estates of dual nationals were double-taxed for a decade after Canada switched to CGT on deemed sale at death: it took that long for the tax treaty to be amended. 

    One learns to live with anomalies just as with other things one is born with (wealth, talent, disability, minority status). That is part of the human condition. 

    To clarify: If indeed your US nationality was forfeit upon naturalisation in Canada and if it was restored (retroactively but conditionally) by Supreme Court decision then that restoration was subject (under international law acceded in by the USG) to your consent. You probably gave that assent by applying for a new passport. You should have had legal counsel. Unfortunately there aren’t many lawyers competent in this arcane area to which I have devoted much of my life.

  22. @punklitch

    “Fairness or unfairness has little to do with the law.” 

    That is interesting and telling statement.  I think there is general sense  in the non-lawyer population  that there is supposed to be,  at least in theory,  some sort of connection  between laws and fairness.  We  except that sometimes things don’t work out perfectly that way,  but  we expect  the principle of fairness to play some role in the legal system.  Justice  and fairness are terms  that  are often used interchangeably..  Without some value to “fairness”  the law seems to be an  instrument of control  that those with power  use over those with out it  to get what they want.

    “There are said to be one million dual US-Canadian nationals living in
    Canada. For most, their US nationality is an irrelevance: only those
    living near the border who cross into the US have a problem. ” 

    Really?  Some of us accidental Americans who don’t live in border towns  still cross the border  (to visit family,  go on holiday)  Much as I appreciate the difficulties of people in border towns,  it hardly  makes  the rest of our problems go away.  Or are you suggesting that  we  ignore the IRS  reporting rules,  etc.  My  many hours of work to produce my 34 pages of US tax and reporting forms (rather than spend thousands  to get an accountant to do it)  is hardly an “irrelevance”

    “The tax complications of accidental and/or unwanted US nationality don’t
    need to be re-hashed here. Suffice to say that the estates of dual
    nationals were double-taxed for a decade after Canada switched to CGT on
    deemed sale at death: it took that long for the tax treaty to be
    amended.”

     Are you suggesting that  estates are not dual taxed  now.? As  I understand  Canada  does not have an estate tax,  the US  does.  I suppose if Canada doesn’t tax the estate  beyond  the  taxes due on deemed sale at death,  then  maybe you could say  it is not “double taxation”  because only the US is doing it.  But  the  fact that  the country  in which I live  and work doesn’t tax  me and then another country with whom I have only minimal connection does tax me  fulfills the idea (if maybe not the actual wording) of what double taxation means to me. 

    But there I go again,  thinking laws ought to be fair!  Silly me.

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