The up-to-date database resides in Part 2 (link at the bottom of this page).
Above is a link to data we are compiling on Relinquishments and Renunciations — a work in progress. This corresponds with the Consulate Report Directory (in sticky post below), tracking individual experiences for each Consulate, along with a timeline chart.
Note: We are using numbers instead of blog names for this public posting so there will be no compromise of private information. Your facts will help give a snapshot of relinquishment and renunciation activity and where that occurs.
Please submit information in the comments here (or someone can contact you privately). Thanks for all your help on this.
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Try looking in this thread for numbers, Mark.
*Mark Twain,
In the first three quarters of this year the lists published in the Federal Register had a total of 887 names of persons reported to have lost their US citizenship. Of course, that total probably includes both renunciants and relinquishers, including relinquishers from past years. Also, it only includes names reported to the Treasury Secretary. So I don’t know if that really helps to answer your question about the number of renunciations for this year. Anyway, I do hope this is helpful.
mucho gracias. numbers are low, and we know why, and we have the korea data. I’ve now printed more than I need for going to the capitol tomorrow
178 appointment slots available in Toronto for January 2013. December slots filled up very fast already. At that rate, if they were all or mostly renunciations/relinquishments, the total for 2012 and for 2013 could be huge, and that is just the one consulate location.
The more the merrier we.
GOOD LUCK tomorrow Mark Twain. And as always THANK YOU!
@Badger,
And at Vancouver there are no slots showing through the first week of May, 2013. Perhaps a tad inconsistent?
*@tiger, Six months? That is totally unreasonable. Time to put in a call to your US congressman or senator and ask for their assistance in secuing a reasonable date for an appointment.
I received my CLN yesterday! Woo Hoo! Happy Day!
I officially renounced on July 9, 2012 and received the Certificate of Loss of Nationality on November 21, 2012. I’m thrilled beyond belief!!! I’m so grateful this is finally done after 13 months of terror and intimidation from you know who.
*
@Angela Kirk
That must be a BIG relief for you! Congratulations for negotiating the mine field and getting free of the many IRS traps. It seems so strange to be celebrating a loss of something that so many in the world think they want, but times have changed. It just isn’t your grandmothers citizenship anymore! Best wishes.
*Congratulations, Angela! Where did you renounce? My appointment was in Toronto in June, but I’m still waiting for my CLN. I hope it comes in time for a Happy New Year celebration.
Congratulations, Angela.
I now have word that you were redandmad and you are now redandglad. So glad you’re now glad. Once again, Congratulations on your prize!
*My wife received her CLN yesterday. She relinquished US citizenship when she became a Canadian in 1983, and that’s the date on her CLN.
Her initial appointment at the Vancouver consulate was in Feb, and her second appointment was in May. (Vancouver insists on 2 appointments.)
So now we decide what to do about the IRS.
This IsaacBrock site has been a huge, huge help. There’s lots of information gold amidst the dross here.
We consulted a US/Canada immigration lawyer & a US/Canada Tax lawyer before I came across this site. If I’d been the American in the family, and had been in the same situation as my wife, who never exercised any “American only” rights since becoming a Canadian, and I had come across this site, I think I would have successfully navigated to a CLN by the information I’ve found for us in here.
@DavidM,
We are glad to get word of a successful completion of RELINQUISHMENT and receipt of CLN for that from the Vancouver Consulate. I’ll add your wife’s experience to the database.
Pass the word to anyone you know who might benefit from some research here at Isaac Brock. Thanks again and Congratulations to your wife!
*Congratulations Angela Kirk! You know who can now kiss your Royal Canadian you know what!
*@Angela, Congratulation!! Great News! Freedom at Last!!
Congratulations Angela and Mrs. DavidM!
You bring especially good news — because you are the first Brockers to have received CLNs through Vancouver! It seems DC sends these in batches to consulates in Canada. This bodes well for other Vancouverites — it was kind of weird seeing that void in the CLN column for Vancouver on the R&R data sheet for so long.
Really glad to hear that the Brock community has played a part in your successfully navigating the situation (as it did for me, too)!
*DavidM’s Wife, Congratulations! Great News!
I am so, so happy to learn that someone from the Vancouver consulate actually has received the much coveted CLN. At last there seems to be ‘movement’ here on the wet coast. Congratulations
@Angela Kirk
@DavidM
Congrats to both — I bet there’s a lot of relief in that.
So it looks like the Vancouver CLNs are coming back 6 months after the second appointment. My wife’s second appointment was August 16th (and her first was also in February) — so maybe by Q1 2013 she’ll have it.
DavidM — did the package arrive with the tax forms in it? They told us to expect that. Doesn’t matter, we have no intention of contacting the IRS — as far as we’re concerned their jurisdiction ended in 1974.
*Congratulations Mrs DavidM and Angela!!
DavidM Nice to hear some good news out of Vancouver for a change. Let us know how you decide to ddeal with the IRS, if you decide to deal with them at all.
@AnonAnon,
Try sending Toronto an e-mail. DC seems to be sending the approved CLNs up to Canada in batches. I think your CLN may be in the same batch as mine was (I was May, approved Oct 15th.). Once approved by DC and received in TO, the consulate has to do final processing before the CLNs are ready to mail — I get the feeling these batches are pretty big, so they can’t do them all at once. But TO is good about answering e-mail, same day, and letting you know what stage your CLN is at.
@All,
At the renunciations appointments that my husband and I had in Calgary on November 14th, we were both told that the Calgary Consulate would notify us when they knew that our renunciations were approved and we would receive our CLNs by mail sometime after that. (We were told receipt of CLNs would take about three months.)
It would be a positive step to have Washington, DC send an immediate notification to the particular Consulate when there is an approval. They could in turn communicate that to those that have had their renunciation and relinquishment appointments, even if the mailing in batches of CLNs back to that Consulate takes place some time after.
Quick communications by email could easily take place — or they might not want to err on such until that package of CLNs is in hand.
*@David,
If your wife received her CLN and it shows the date of loss of citizenship as 1983, how could she possibly have any remaining US tax obligations? Would not the statute of limitations long since have expired for any tax obligations prior to 1983? That was 19 years ago.
Perhaps someone else familar with this might comment on this.
My $0.02 — she shouldn’t!!!! She was not a citizen of the US after the date of her relinquishment as reported to the Vancouver Consulate and approved in Washington, DC. She now has proof of that with her CLN dated 1983. That’s what any normal, common sense person would deduce. But, there may be smarter people than me who would could wangle the facts.
*Ever see Cool Hand Luke? Well, seems like what we got here, between the State Dept. and the IRS, is….a failure to communicate.